its kinda like if you would put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger do you think you would feel anything... if you do try make sure you tape it.... just trying to "prove it"
Hahaha.... What a product!!! It fucking takes the head clear off!!! Everyone can shut up too.... You ALL eat turkey on Thanksgiving as I dont think many vegans would be on mucho sucko. If you saw how they kill em at the plant you'd for sure opt for a Arrow Guillotine Killed bird over Foster Farms killed bird.
It would suck if the hunter was a bad shot and it just like took a chunk out of its head without actually taking the head off and the bird just bled out
I actually am a vegetarian, and yes I do think most hunting is dumb, not because i'm a vegetarian, but because they do it in such a lazy ass way... if he was actually out and about all rambo style and chasing the birds and taking running shots i'd have a little more respect, but sitting in a artificial shelter that probably costs a few hundred dollars, for a few hours playing with a kazoo to make the birds come and present themselves to you is just fucking stupid, you don't have to be atheletic or more "fit" as a species, just lazy and able to shoot an arrow or bullet after you've had a few beers. That or physically chasing them down/pouncing on them from a tree, now that would be far more entertaining.
For turkeys its not so much a kazoo, its a little wooden box that you scrape a thin peice of wood over, and it makes a perfect turkey call. Im cooking a wild turkey soon here. gonna smoke it. Quoting jim gaffagin, "do you know what they do to those animals?" "no but its delicious"
Ralph27972, how do you think most carnivores in the wild hunt? They sure as hell don't run around all rambo style scaring the hell out of their prey (exceptions being the Cheetah, the Wolf Pack, and a Pride of Lions, and a few others). Most animal Hunters stalk their prey quietly, or lay in wait for them, and when they're least expected, bam, out they jump, taking their prey down quick and clean, and usually with a little bit of suffering that comes from being choked to death.
"You just have to be able to shoot an arrow or bullet after you've had a few beers." If you're drinking beer and hunting, you're a complete and utter fuckwit and you deserve to shoot your dick off, or your mate's, or both yours and your mate's. Serious Hunters do not drink alcohol while hunting.
"you just have to be able to shoot an arrow or bullet". You obviously have no clue how much skill is required to hit your target with a bullet, let alone an arrow. It's a bit harder than you think, Ralphy boy.
Now, why don't you run along and eat some more vegetables, and I'll continue eating some venison and turkey from animals I've personally hunted and killed.
Virginslayer, that's an awesome Jim Gaffagin quote :D
yah im not a vegetarian but i still think that animals should suffer as little as possible, so this is cool IF you hit the neck, but how hard does that actually have to be? ive shot arrows with NO success whatsoever<br>
im SURE that a lot of hunters drink while they hunt so i can only imagine the kind of suffering one of them would cause if they got their hands on these arrows. in the right hands though, this would be about as humane as just cutting the head off i suppose
wtf is going on here? Hunting turkeys who are standing absolutely still? The fucking idiots could just run up to a big fat turkey and catch it with their hands. That isn't hunting, what they are doing is hunt simulation. It feels like the real thing to them but it is nothing like real hunting. A bit like MS Flight Simulator gamers think they are really flying a plane.
well i shuld have said that they suffer less than a normal arrow that would make them bleed to death. this way the brain simply doestn get oxygen and ceases to function quite fast. so yeah... they kinda dont suffer at all
At least when an animal gets attacked by another animal it has some fucking idea what the hell is going on and has a chance to fight back or flee. Guns, bows, and other hunting weapons give animals almost no warning before they are dead or mortally wounded.
Prey can, over time, adapt to the preditors that hunt it so as to have a higher chance of survival. How could something adapt to a bullet? Run around in random fucking directions all the time?
Early man used rocks, knives, and spears to kill animals. That probably took quite a bit of skill, coordination, and effort. Then came the bow and arrow, a little bit easier to use. Today, we have guns. Point, shoot, and you win. Not much skill or effort to it. And none of you fuckers tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about because I was born into a hunting family and they had me shoot guns all the time. Anyway, what's next? You push a button and a fucking stealthed robot goes out and kills a moose and brings it back to you. It wouldn't surprise me.
actually if you where "born into a hunting family" then you would know that there is a little skill involved you can't just simply point and shoot, and not every animal that is shot dies there are some that get away, and WTF are you complaining about are you one of them veggies to?
Yeah, moron. I'm a vegitarian. Because everybody that's against hunting is automatically a fucking vegitarian. Grow a brain, please.
Yes, there is a little skill involved in using a gun. There are factors to take into account such as the target's motion, trajectory influence from gravity and wind, uncalibrated sights, etc. Yes, indeed it does take technical skill and understanding: not everyone who has never used a rifle in his or her life could pick it up and get a kill shot the first day. But comparing a hunting with a fucking rifle to running around with a spear and knife. The animal will probably have a chance to see you before you throw your spear. It will have a chance to react.
Nothing can react fast enough to dodge a fucking bullet.
An animal that gets wounded by a predator or even by a spear thrown by a human will have memories of what happened and might be able to avoid a similar incident in the future. An animal that is wounded by a bullet has no fucking clue what happened. One second it was grazing and the next second it was in excruciating pain and there is a load bang. It runs like hell and the only thing it remembers is one horrible, traumatic experience.
My point is that throughout history it is getting easier and easier to "hunt" and the game is having less and less of a chance to survive and less and less of an opportunity to react or even comprehend the threat we pose to it.
Would you say that it takes "skill" target a deer with a pin-point death laser mounted on a satellite, and push the kill button? Less skill than using a rifle, right?
"Would you say that it takes "skill" target a deer with a pin-point death laser mounted on a satellite, and push the kill button? Less skill than using a rifle, right?"
The ultimate killing machine is a Predator UAV prowling the skies of Iraq, unseen & unheard, armed with a couple of Hellfire missiles and controlled by a 23 year old airman stationed in Nellis AFB in Nevada. Gets you in the crosshairs, pulls the trigger and you are toast!
But really Xon, if every animal were like your wishes, then the whole animal kingdom would collapse. You would have animals that could not be caught. Could adapt to any predator situation. Is that what you want? You think that if a mouse could see a snake speeding towards it then life would be fair? Grow up you retard.
Hunting is what kept humans alive, and still does today in some parts of the world. Just because we can "push a button" to make a kill, does not automatically mean we dont deserve to hunt anymore. Why do you think people still hunt with bows and arrows, it's precisely because they dont want to use a gun. There is more skill involved. Have you ever shot a bow and arrow? You claim you used to hunt, but it seems as if you have somewhere along the way lost all respect. A pity. Or, a ruse for sympathy.
Your rant is one of the most retarded things I have ever read. Go drink some aloe vera juice you green kook.
um i would have to guess that having your brain separated from your body would get rid of MOST feeling of you dying.... considering your spine is severed and all......
getting your head cut off in one quick motion is one of the most humane ways of killing anything (that goes for people who used to get their heads chopped off with the guillotine and such)... only thing that would suck for the bird would be being hit in the chest or side with one of these things.. they would leave a pretty nasty mess... or losing one of them in the bush without a tether and having some kid step on them (ive stepped on a broadhead before and it tore my foot to shreds before i even knew i stepped on it, no pain until i saw what happend)... but when you go bird hunting you generally have a line on your arrows anyway...
so.... if they are shot well.. most likely no pain at all... its just like getting shot with a normal arrow almost... they are so sharp the animals don't really even feel them... if you go bear hunting with a bow youll see that kind of proof... shoot a bear.. itll go through them and the bear will continue to eat or whatever it was doing.
I'd say it would be a good way to kill game to <eat> considering how little stress is put on the animal than (say) grabbing it and trying to break its neck, chop its head off, cut its throat, drown it, plunge it in boiling water etc. Also less stress usually means better meat. This of course is provided you don't hit something other than its head/neck cleanly.
I noticed all of the anti hunting comments here seem to imply that hunting has been made easy with the advent of fire arms (which have been around for more than 600 years...bow/arrow, muzzler loader or semi auto shotgun you usually only get one chance at a shot when it comes to turkey's).
What's simply being over looked here is that turkeys are one of the hardest animals to hunt in the world. Turkeys are renowned for their immaculate eye sight, hearing, ability to see in colour and overall "nervousness" make the turkey an exceptionall hard animal to hunt (its not uncommon for a hunter to go two or three seasons without a bird after starting out). Even an experinced hunter can spoil his hunt with a slight out of place movement (rustling of a boot or handmovment).
It's much more complicated than pointing and shooting, especially with a bow
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boom headshot!
i feel bad for those animals that get hunted. not cause they die, but because they die thinking they are going to get laid, and they never do.
hmm i think this arrows are good, at least they dont suffer...
and i think the rednecks that fired them are the same ones from the "we are having a party" post
i wanna see a human get shot in the head with one.... bet that would make an interesting video
^ I was thinking the same thing
Attach a boat propeller to the tip of a whaling harpoon and fire it out of a crossbow fashioned out of welded together steel beams and towing cord.
Then you could use this set-up for something larger than a turkey. >=D
Just don't let Cheney get his hands on these...
<--- not advocating vegetarianism or animal rights anything
"at least they dont suffer"
Prove it.
its kinda like if you would put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger do you think you would feel anything... if you do try make sure you tape it.... just trying to "prove it"
Hahaha.... What a product!!! It fucking takes the head clear off!!! Everyone can shut up too.... You ALL eat turkey on Thanksgiving as I dont think many vegans would be on mucho sucko. If you saw how they kill em at the plant you'd for sure opt for a Arrow Guillotine Killed bird over Foster Farms killed bird.
"Little did he know that Corey Skelling was recently promoted to guillotine commander, just this spring..."
It would suck if the hunter was a bad shot and it just like took a chunk out of its head without actually taking the head off and the bird just bled out
I actually am a vegetarian, and yes I do think most hunting is dumb, not because i'm a vegetarian, but because they do it in such a lazy ass way... if he was actually out and about all rambo style and chasing the birds and taking running shots i'd have a little more respect, but sitting in a artificial shelter that probably costs a few hundred dollars, for a few hours playing with a kazoo to make the birds come and present themselves to you is just fucking stupid, you don't have to be atheletic or more "fit" as a species, just lazy and able to shoot an arrow or bullet after you've had a few beers. That or physically chasing them down/pouncing on them from a tree, now that would be far more entertaining.
For turkeys its not so much a kazoo, its a little wooden box that you scrape a thin peice of wood over, and it makes a perfect turkey call. Im cooking a wild turkey soon here. gonna smoke it. Quoting jim gaffagin, "do you know what they do to those animals?" "no but its delicious"
that was sooo messed up when they shot the male when it was screwing the female after he was done maybe but not in the middle i mean come on
I wanna see what happens with a solid body shot.
Ralph27972, how do you think most carnivores in the wild hunt? They sure as hell don't run around all rambo style scaring the hell out of their prey (exceptions being the Cheetah, the Wolf Pack, and a Pride of Lions, and a few others). Most animal Hunters stalk their prey quietly, or lay in wait for them, and when they're least expected, bam, out they jump, taking their prey down quick and clean, and usually with a little bit of suffering that comes from being choked to death.
"You just have to be able to shoot an arrow or bullet after you've had a few beers." If you're drinking beer and hunting, you're a complete and utter fuckwit and you deserve to shoot your dick off, or your mate's, or both yours and your mate's. Serious Hunters do not drink alcohol while hunting.
"you just have to be able to shoot an arrow or bullet". You obviously have no clue how much skill is required to hit your target with a bullet, let alone an arrow. It's a bit harder than you think, Ralphy boy.
Now, why don't you run along and eat some more vegetables, and I'll continue eating some venison and turkey from animals I've personally hunted and killed.
Virginslayer, that's an awesome Jim Gaffagin quote :D
totaly cracked out
Well said CapnJohn, Well said. Pass the moose burgers please. GOd damn vegand and animal rights pussies...we should hunt THEM.....
Ralph is an idiot.
yah im not a vegetarian but i still think that animals should suffer as little as possible, so this is cool IF you hit the neck, but how hard does that actually have to be? ive shot arrows with NO success whatsoever<br>
im SURE that a lot of hunters drink while they hunt so i can only imagine the kind of suffering one of them would cause if they got their hands on these arrows. in the right hands though, this would be about as humane as just cutting the head off i suppose
hey guys, where does the arrow end up?
Do all americans pronounce it Gee-ya-teen by the way? inbred sons of bitches.
He put a cap on his head right afterwards like...like...a redneck.
wtf is going on here? Hunting turkeys who are standing absolutely still? The fucking idiots could just run up to a big fat turkey and catch it with their hands. That isn't hunting, what they are doing is hunt simulation. It feels like the real thing to them but it is nothing like real hunting. A bit like MS Flight Simulator gamers think they are really flying a plane.
yeah there pussy's,shoot an bear or a rhino with one of these,then you are a man.
Ralphy??????? FROM A CHRISTMAS STORY??????? He can't have a gun he'd shoot his fucking eye out!!!!!!
That are my arrow of chose too!
well i shuld have said that they suffer less than a normal arrow that would make them bleed to death. this way the brain simply doestn get oxygen and ceases to function quite fast. so yeah... they kinda dont suffer at all
At least when an animal gets attacked by another animal it has some fucking idea what the hell is going on and has a chance to fight back or flee. Guns, bows, and other hunting weapons give animals almost no warning before they are dead or mortally wounded.
Prey can, over time, adapt to the preditors that hunt it so as to have a higher chance of survival. How could something adapt to a bullet? Run around in random fucking directions all the time?
Early man used rocks, knives, and spears to kill animals. That probably took quite a bit of skill, coordination, and effort. Then came the bow and arrow, a little bit easier to use. Today, we have guns. Point, shoot, and you win. Not much skill or effort to it. And none of you fuckers tell me that I don't know what I'm talking about because I was born into a hunting family and they had me shoot guns all the time. Anyway, what's next? You push a button and a fucking stealthed robot goes out and kills a moose and brings it back to you. It wouldn't surprise me.
actually if you where "born into a hunting family" then you would know that there is a little skill involved you can't just simply point and shoot, and not every animal that is shot dies there are some that get away, and WTF are you complaining about are you one of them veggies to?
hahahahahah! That is AWSOME! Watch their little heads roll!
Yeah, moron. I'm a vegitarian. Because everybody that's against hunting is automatically a fucking vegitarian. Grow a brain, please.
Yes, there is a little skill involved in using a gun. There are factors to take into account such as the target's motion, trajectory influence from gravity and wind, uncalibrated sights, etc. Yes, indeed it does take technical skill and understanding: not everyone who has never used a rifle in his or her life could pick it up and get a kill shot the first day. But comparing a hunting with a fucking rifle to running around with a spear and knife. The animal will probably have a chance to see you before you throw your spear. It will have a chance to react.
Nothing can react fast enough to dodge a fucking bullet.
An animal that gets wounded by a predator or even by a spear thrown by a human will have memories of what happened and might be able to avoid a similar incident in the future. An animal that is wounded by a bullet has no fucking clue what happened. One second it was grazing and the next second it was in excruciating pain and there is a load bang. It runs like hell and the only thing it remembers is one horrible, traumatic experience.
My point is that throughout history it is getting easier and easier to "hunt" and the game is having less and less of a chance to survive and less and less of an opportunity to react or even comprehend the threat we pose to it.
Would you say that it takes "skill" target a deer with a pin-point death laser mounted on a satellite, and push the kill button? Less skill than using a rifle, right?
Guss you do kinda have a point there..... i think ill go craft a bow and some arrows now, anyone have any idea how to make arrowheads?
"Would you say that it takes "skill" target a deer with a pin-point death laser mounted on a satellite, and push the kill button? Less skill than using a rifle, right?"
....I want a Satellite guided deathray now....
The ultimate killing machine is a Predator UAV prowling the skies of Iraq, unseen & unheard, armed with a couple of Hellfire missiles and controlled by a 23 year old airman stationed in Nellis AFB in Nevada. Gets you in the crosshairs, pulls the trigger and you are toast!
^ yeah but does this 'drone' come equipped with a special towel-head mating call?
Well, I guess out of shape balding white men have to feel tough some how.
^^^ LOL.
But really Xon, if every animal were like your wishes, then the whole animal kingdom would collapse. You would have animals that could not be caught. Could adapt to any predator situation. Is that what you want? You think that if a mouse could see a snake speeding towards it then life would be fair? Grow up you retard.
Hunting is what kept humans alive, and still does today in some parts of the world. Just because we can "push a button" to make a kill, does not automatically mean we dont deserve to hunt anymore. Why do you think people still hunt with bows and arrows, it's precisely because they dont want to use a gun. There is more skill involved. Have you ever shot a bow and arrow? You claim you used to hunt, but it seems as if you have somewhere along the way lost all respect. A pity. Or, a ruse for sympathy.
Your rant is one of the most retarded things I have ever read. Go drink some aloe vera juice you green kook.
OH, lol at Chapel, not tsakjerbal.
um i would have to guess that having your brain separated from your body would get rid of MOST feeling of you dying.... considering your spine is severed and all......
getting your head cut off in one quick motion is one of the most humane ways of killing anything (that goes for people who used to get their heads chopped off with the guillotine and such)... only thing that would suck for the bird would be being hit in the chest or side with one of these things.. they would leave a pretty nasty mess... or losing one of them in the bush without a tether and having some kid step on them (ive stepped on a broadhead before and it tore my foot to shreds before i even knew i stepped on it, no pain until i saw what happend)... but when you go bird hunting you generally have a line on your arrows anyway...
so.... if they are shot well.. most likely no pain at all... its just like getting shot with a normal arrow almost... they are so sharp the animals don't really even feel them... if you go bear hunting with a bow youll see that kind of proof... shoot a bear.. itll go through them and the bear will continue to eat or whatever it was doing.
K-billy well if you think about it, the prey would adapt and then the predators would adapt<br>
so everying is brought up
Lot of Ted Nugents on this site...
YEEAAH! THE NUGE!
"Coming next year; the Deer Guillotine!" The deer taxidermy and head mounting would be simpler.
you just launch the deer guillotine with a siege crossbow :P
SAVE THE ANIMALS!!!!!!!!!!!! eat a vegitarian...
I'd say it would be a good way to kill game to <eat> considering how little stress is put on the animal than (say) grabbing it and trying to break its neck, chop its head off, cut its throat, drown it, plunge it in boiling water etc. Also less stress usually means better meat. This of course is provided you don't hit something other than its head/neck cleanly.
I noticed all of the anti hunting comments here seem to imply that hunting has been made easy with the advent of fire arms (which have been around for more than 600 years...bow/arrow, muzzler loader or semi auto shotgun you usually only get one chance at a shot when it comes to turkey's).
What's simply being over looked here is that turkeys are one of the hardest animals to hunt in the world. Turkeys are renowned for their immaculate eye sight, hearing, ability to see in colour and overall "nervousness" make the turkey an exceptionall hard animal to hunt (its not uncommon for a hunter to go two or three seasons without a bird after starting out). Even an experinced hunter can spoil his hunt with a slight out of place movement (rustling of a boot or handmovment).
It's much more complicated than pointing and shooting, especially with a bow