Exam boards selecting a certain obscure phrase which will be kept secret. Any inadvertent writing of this phrase in any exam, will automaticaly receiving a straight A?
I'd be willing to wager a bet that at least half the people calling obama a socialist couldn't define the differences between socialism and capitalism any further than "durrrrrr...capitalism good...socialism bad"
The people 42Adams is talking about would just scream and yell at you if you asked them to define any such terms...anger is a tactic for the Rush fans and such
it would be great if everyone just wasnt an asshole dumbfuck, but they are
choosing one ideology and sticking with it for everything is complete fail, thats why we have socialist police and firemen, capitalist manufacturers and retailers, and stupid fucking assholes like you
People who believe this can't even outline WHY socialism is "bad". Look at Canada, and how they're all healthy and shit. It just goes to show that compromise is usually the easiest way to get shit done.
All it takes is a couple mouse clicks and you can find a logical reason as to why socialism doesn't work.. but i doubt you know that side of the argument also
Canadians aren't as fucking fat and their second biggest fucking province is smaller than our biggest city. But I'm sure the fucking diabetes and heart disease and shit has nothing to do with all these fucking lardos walking around and the asthma has nothing to do with being surrounded by air so shitty you might as well be chain smoking.
http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/why-socialism-failed/
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here's one.
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http://www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/003461.html
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here's another
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But i'll ask a pretty simple question. Do you honestly believe our government is good at regulating anything properly? You want the same government that has fucked ourselves over the last decade (and longer if you want to be honest) to now have control over our health care? I guess it just irritates me when people are willing to give the government so much power. We allowed the government to go to war without declaring war, and look what happened. Now you want them to control your health? Sorry if I'm skeptical, but i don't trust politicians and I'm surprised you do.
I read a couple, and (especially that last one) you seem to be confusing it with communism.
In a socialist country there ARE incentives - there's still an open economy with free trade, and all that good stuff.
What I'm saying is if America infused the current idea of capitalism with a few socialist ideas i.e. HEALTH CARE (like people in Canada and Italy enjoy) then we would form a better-oiled machine.
Or you could let people do as they wish so that any group of Americans that believed in it could start their own non-profit health insurance company. And those who didn't want to participate and instead chose to risk paying their own bills or deal with private insurance would be free to do so.
Telling the government to do something is just telling a few wealthy people "hey, you might not have any interest in this, or any expertise, but here's a shitload of money to do something badly and give me basically no say in how it's spent. And also make sure you take other people's money to pay for what I want as well."
you know bono, you seem like a douche but i can't really argue with that. Little bits of socialistic things are bound to pop up in a moral society. Yet, people need to realize the disease it can spread when it becomes out of control. It's just my opinion that "socializing" healthcare, on multiple levels, is too dangerous. But i have the biased mind-set that the governments sucks at just about everything it does, and obama hasn't convinced me otherwise, and not just with healthcare.
You also completely lack an understanding of the fundamental /meaning/ of socialism. Freedom and control are not things which are arbitrarily given and taken in contemporary societies; furthermore, there's no evidence that "Obama" (*congress) or the gov't is going "take control of your health"; to say that is absurd, especially since Private Healthcare remains.
The fact so many Americans are blind to the basic idea of ADDING another level of healthcare to create a BROADER accessibility only speaks of the paranoia and media-fear mongering effects of which you live under. That, and good ol' McCarthyism.
We're going to pass a health care plan
written by a committee who'se head says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it,
signed by a president who also hasn't read it, and who smokes,
with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes,
overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and
financed by a country that's nearly broke.
The format of your system (and ours) may be flawed, but the concept is sound. It's up to the individuals (and the people watching them) who conceive of the outline to execute it properly.
...you should probably seek expertise from overseas.
Hank if most people want not-for-profit health insurance then don't you think some of them would have the brains to set it up themselves? Or is it just fucking idiots with no idea how finance or insurance work that think it's a good idea?
Hell it's not complicated anyway, you just take 20% or so of the income of everyone that signs up and if anyone gets sick you pay their bills.
I looked at the Mondragon co-op at uni, and it's pretty simple. It's nothing other than self contained socialism. All you need for it to work, is for the people involved to contribute & want to take part. You can't force anyone to do anything.
Both our countries have voluntarily unemployed losers. It is for that reason, it wouldn't work full scale. Or else you end up like Cuba.
Usually when you suggest a voluntary system the socialists go an explain why that wouldn't work and in doing so they explain why their system is morally wrong.
Kinda like: "if I asked you for $20 you'd say 'no' so of course I had to steal it from your wallet."
I was saying, dumbass, that people in the country that don't have health insurance and need it (poor, undereducated people) wouldn't have the know-how and/or funds available to do it themselves.
That was pretty simple to understand wasn't it? Don't be intentionally obtuse.
deadskinmask is a fucking mongo. "socializing healthcare would be dangerous in so many levels" ooooh yea, poor people getting the healthcare they need and cant afford would be so spooky. if you dont like what the hospital has to offer go to a fucking clinic and pay up if you can afford it. jesus fucking christ you gringos deserve the shit of a country youve got
what's with all the noobs trying to boss me around today? fuck you, asshole! and what the fuck's this got to do with the chan?
is it cuz' i said 'lulz'? you're a net-nazi.
hah! all your evidence is circumstantial,
now jury will ever convict me based on your paranoid hunches. i'm scot free. maybe i'll head over to the chan right now and cuntpaste some neat macros which i will then post here just to piss you off.
okay seriously now dik,
all i do is read the ED from time to time,
just to know the enemy. i really have never been to 4chan and don't plan on doing so.
from what i've gathered, they're even more retarded than we are here. just drop it, mkay?
he says he has never been to 4chan...now frankly i dont really care if he has..it's the deceit that bothers me...he knows too much ..he called it "the chan"
btw, do we hate somethingawful and ymntd too,
or is this feud limited to ebaums and 4chan?
(i must know which accounts to delete in order to not lose my mucho street-cred.)
there was a link to the ed article about "tl;dr" on here a couple days ago, i got stuck, clicking link after link, and 2 hours later i knew way too much about 4chan and its retarded habits, that's all.
and dik, that last diss was uncalled for.
He's a sellout but he'll disguise the corruption as socialism rather than capitalism.
Also the unions put a lot of money towards him. Fucking auto unions gave something like 50 mil to his campaign while refusing to give an inch to the auto companies.
i posted it cuz' i found the pic amusing,
the ensuing hilarity/moronity in the comments is just the icing on the cake.
plus, every little 'tits or gtfo' bitch does the same.
the funny thing is that people still think there's much difference between democrats and republicans. what has really changed when this asshole took office? same bailouts, same wars, same rendition policy, same illicit wiretapping. the only difference is that now we have an asshole in office who is a good communicator. he has managed to dupe millions of morons into thinking he gives a fuck about them. and that makes him worse than bush in a very real way.
Americans are morons. Every new President is the end of the world. They'll never really embrace the socialism that Europe does because they'd never pay the taxes it takes to prop up a socialist state. Just more of this back and forth extreme bullshit. 4 to 8 years from now it'll go the other way.
Socialism is fine for people with that mindset who can live that way, but this particular country was founded on individual rights, so I think it's fair to say if you want government force behind your socialism or communism or whatever then you should fuck off to another country.
too bad most idiots out there think that nothing in America is socialized. Ever heard of the fire dept=socialized fire protection. Police dept = socialized public security. But Socialized med care = evil.
First, you could argue the constitution almost requires those first two. Second, health care is a far more complex matter than those other two. Otherwise the bill wouldn't be a foot thick.
Fuck all you Obama haters. fuckers block all the progress just because the brain-dead right wing scam artists like Rush, Glenn, Sean, Bill, on and on spoon feed you their horseshit and you eat it up.
All I read is people bitching about capitalism because it's so bad. It is so horrible. Maybe if your shitty parents (or lack thereof) actualy amounted to something then you wouldn't think that way eh? "Progress" is for fucktards that are either lazy as shit or don't understand CAUSE and EFFECT. Both are hand in hand.
Comments to Comrade Obamachev
i like obama
cock*
original
*inventive
Shut up.
Hair plugs.
obama might be able to get something done if the fucking republicans would actually legislate what the majority of the American people want
Extra large slice of Good ol' American Apple Pie?
Socks being sold in 3's for when one gets lost?
Legislation making it illegal for superpowers to use their powers for evil?
*superheroes
A ban on terrorists having beards 'cause they look scary?
Pizza Hut & Wendys to provide school meals?
A minimum of 2 nuclear war drills a day to keep the nation on it toes?
health care reform, smart ass; and preferably with a public option
Chocolate available as a prescription drug?
History should be renamed Geography. As in "Right that's it. You're geography!"
well, legalizing marijuana, if you're asking
Buildings being fitted with air conditioning units on the outside to combat climate change?
Exam boards selecting a certain obscure phrase which will be kept secret. Any inadvertent writing of this phrase in any exam, will automaticaly receiving a straight A?
Requiring poets to sign up for a 'poetic license' to eliminate shoddy poetry.
Monster Raving Loony Party
OJ , you need to write for Letterman .
I'd be willing to wager a bet that at least half the people calling obama a socialist couldn't define the differences between socialism and capitalism any further than "durrrrrr...capitalism good...socialism bad"
thats why youre here poindixter
And in no way could you argue that hes neither.
Yeah but half the people who like him would just be like "durrr capitalism bad me poor" and the other half are black.
i'd be willing to wager that 42adams is correct.
I don't really gamble too much.
But hank is it really a gamble. Its a safe bet.
The people 42Adams is talking about would just scream and yell at you if you asked them to define any such terms...anger is a tactic for the Rush fans and such
it would be great if everyone just wasnt an asshole dumbfuck, but they are
choosing one ideology and sticking with it for everything is complete fail, thats why we have socialist police and firemen, capitalist manufacturers and retailers, and stupid fucking assholes like you
/forward to glenn beck
kojach for the most part i hate you but for 5 minutes and not a second more will you please marry me and have black my black babies?
"have black my black babies?"
did i studder nigga? you heard my drunken rant
Ebony and ivory, live together in perfect harmony.
Babies got black.
People who believe this can't even outline WHY socialism is "bad". Look at Canada, and how they're all healthy and shit. It just goes to show that compromise is usually the easiest way to get shit done.
All it takes is a couple mouse clicks and you can find a logical reason as to why socialism doesn't work.. but i doubt you know that side of the argument also
If you do, please, enlighten us. Afterall, it's only a "couple mouse clicks".
(I love people who play up how "easy" it is for someone /else/ to check a claim /they're/ making.)
Canadians aren't as fucking fat and their second biggest fucking province is smaller than our biggest city. But I'm sure the fucking diabetes and heart disease and shit has nothing to do with all these fucking lardos walking around and the asthma has nothing to do with being surrounded by air so shitty you might as well be chain smoking.
http://www.thefreemanonline.org/featured/why-socialism-failed/
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here's one.
.
http://www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/003461.html
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here's another
.
But i'll ask a pretty simple question. Do you honestly believe our government is good at regulating anything properly? You want the same government that has fucked ourselves over the last decade (and longer if you want to be honest) to now have control over our health care? I guess it just irritates me when people are willing to give the government so much power. We allowed the government to go to war without declaring war, and look what happened. Now you want them to control your health? Sorry if I'm skeptical, but i don't trust politicians and I'm surprised you do.
Oh and here's a column by a Canadian.
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http://hubpages.com/hub/Why-Does-Socialism-Always-Fail
I read a couple, and (especially that last one) you seem to be confusing it with communism.
In a socialist country there ARE incentives - there's still an open economy with free trade, and all that good stuff.
What I'm saying is if America infused the current idea of capitalism with a few socialist ideas i.e. HEALTH CARE (like people in Canada and Italy enjoy) then we would form a better-oiled machine.
Compromise usually = a win.
Usually.
Or you could let people do as they wish so that any group of Americans that believed in it could start their own non-profit health insurance company. And those who didn't want to participate and instead chose to risk paying their own bills or deal with private insurance would be free to do so.
Telling the government to do something is just telling a few wealthy people "hey, you might not have any interest in this, or any expertise, but here's a shitload of money to do something badly and give me basically no say in how it's spent. And also make sure you take other people's money to pay for what I want as well."
Fuck you, that was funny.
oops
Try again...
Because the people that need health insurance and don't have it would have the know-how and funding to start their own non-profit insurance company.
www.ehow.com/how_4478642_start-insurance-company.html
Taadaaaaaaa!
*waves arms in celebration*
you know bono, you seem like a douche but i can't really argue with that. Little bits of socialistic things are bound to pop up in a moral society. Yet, people need to realize the disease it can spread when it becomes out of control. It's just my opinion that "socializing" healthcare, on multiple levels, is too dangerous. But i have the biased mind-set that the governments sucks at just about everything it does, and obama hasn't convinced me otherwise, and not just with healthcare.
You also completely lack an understanding of the fundamental /meaning/ of socialism. Freedom and control are not things which are arbitrarily given and taken in contemporary societies; furthermore, there's no evidence that "Obama" (*congress) or the gov't is going "take control of your health"; to say that is absurd, especially since Private Healthcare remains.
The fact so many Americans are blind to the basic idea of ADDING another level of healthcare to create a BROADER accessibility only speaks of the paranoia and media-fear mongering effects of which you live under. That, and good ol' McCarthyism.
Let me get this straight...
We're going to pass a health care plan
written by a committee who'se head says he doesn't understand it,
passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it,
signed by a president who also hasn't read it, and who smokes,
with funding administered by a treasury chief who didn't pay his taxes,
overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and
financed by a country that's nearly broke.
What possibly could go wrong?
^All true.. couldn't help it.
I'm not reading all of that.
The format of your system (and ours) may be flawed, but the concept is sound. It's up to the individuals (and the people watching them) who conceive of the outline to execute it properly.
...you should probably seek expertise from overseas.
Hank if most people want not-for-profit health insurance then don't you think some of them would have the brains to set it up themselves? Or is it just fucking idiots with no idea how finance or insurance work that think it's a good idea?
Hell it's not complicated anyway, you just take 20% or so of the income of everyone that signs up and if anyone gets sick you pay their bills.
It's a very basic cooperate.
I looked at the Mondragon co-op at uni, and it's pretty simple. It's nothing other than self contained socialism. All you need for it to work, is for the people involved to contribute & want to take part. You can't force anyone to do anything.
Both our countries have voluntarily unemployed losers. It is for that reason, it wouldn't work full scale. Or else you end up like Cuba.
*cooperative
Usually when you suggest a voluntary system the socialists go an explain why that wouldn't work and in doing so they explain why their system is morally wrong.
Kinda like: "if I asked you for $20 you'd say 'no' so of course I had to steal it from your wallet."
I was saying, dumbass, that people in the country that don't have health insurance and need it (poor, undereducated people) wouldn't have the know-how and/or funds available to do it themselves.
That was pretty simple to understand wasn't it? Don't be intentionally obtuse.
deadskinmask is a fucking mongo. "socializing healthcare would be dangerous in so many levels" ooooh yea, poor people getting the healthcare they need and cant afford would be so spooky. if you dont like what the hospital has to offer go to a fucking clinic and pay up if you can afford it. jesus fucking christ you gringos deserve the shit of a country youve got
I like Turtles
Tortoises > Turtles.
More durable.
Is that really you in your avatar.
It is. You guys had a field day with my fake-looking stubble (it's real but I tell people it's nesquick) AND my tidy haircut.
36 comments is the exact opposite of "a field day". no one cared then, no one cares now.
Cared about what?
^exactly!
Think of a black man's chest hair, only lighter.
THAT is my facial hair.
Think of a black man's cock hair, only stickier.
THAT is this fuck's facial hair.
I'd argue with that but I'd need to know what a black dude's cock hair felt/looked like.
You're a man of the world.
Uh oh! We got a right wingnut on the loose.
you're such a complete failure.
i posted this for the lulz and to get idiots like you worked up.
mission accomplished!
this isn't 4chan so how bout you just take your retarded ass somewhere else
Agree. For teh lulz is juvenile. Tsk tsk. Grow up Steven.
what's with all the noobs trying to boss me around today? fuck you, asshole! and what the fuck's this got to do with the chan?
is it cuz' i said 'lulz'? you're a net-nazi.
You'd know Mr. High German.
thats me, the aryan 'part-time party nazi nigger', and, i'm usually high.
lulz?..."the chan"?...hmmmmmmm
*gives the stink-eye
still witch hunting there, dik?
believe me, i'm clean, that's just how i talk.
or isn't it?
*dramatic prairie dog*
dramatic prairie dog?....the evidence is building..i may file charges
i may alert the muchosucko grand jury
Evidence for what? I'm out of the loop.
hah! all your evidence is circumstantial,
now jury will ever convict me based on your paranoid hunches. i'm scot free. maybe i'll head over to the chan right now and cuntpaste some neat macros which i will then post here just to piss you off.
okay seriously now dik,
all i do is read the ED from time to time,
just to know the enemy. i really have never been to 4chan and don't plan on doing so.
from what i've gathered, they're even more retarded than we are here. just drop it, mkay?
hank, dik suspects me of being a 4chan-anon-fag.
he says he has never been to 4chan...now frankly i dont really care if he has..it's the deceit that bothers me...he knows too much ..he called it "the chan"
plus he's really defensive aboot it
as you can see
and i'll decide when or if i'll drop it
dik, it's the ED.
it makes you chan-savvy.
wanna try?
http://encyclopediadramatica.com
What's the ED? Seriously Steven, you've got way too much gay intraweb lingo going on.
Interpost.
i have no idea either hank..like i say..he knows too much
lets burn him anyway, just for the hell of it- i mean just to be sure... you can never be too safe
only a 4chan regular would be this concerned about being called one...fact
btw, do we hate somethingawful and ymntd too,
or is this feud limited to ebaums and 4chan?
(i must know which accounts to delete in order to not lose my mucho street-cred.)
dwhill, did you see my last reply on that emma watson thread? i made you a sweet offer.
dont try to change the subject
and you don't have mucho cred noob
Don't you talk about something awful that way.
And I think you revealing that you looked up "the chan" to become "chan-savvy" just sealed your fate.
i'm not. so how do we go on about this?
how can i prove that my loyalty to the mucho knows no limits?
Side note: All the gray shaded avatars makes this thread hard to follow.
ouch, typs just ass raped you. and yes i saw your offer, I'll catch you later on that.
there was a link to the ed article about "tl;dr" on here a couple days ago, i got stuck, clicking link after link, and 2 hours later i knew way too much about 4chan and its retarded habits, that's all.
and dik, that last diss was uncalled for.
i'm sorry i didn't mean to "hurtz your feelinz"
hahaha!
that was lulzy!
This thread is riddled with fail.
oh come on, and "riddled with fail" is not chanspeak?
plus, i thought it was funny.
^
FOR FUCKS SAKE STOP BEING A SPAMMY CHAN FUCKIN FUCK, YOU FUCKIN FUCK
ditto
...We have a Grand Jury?
lulz @ cheeky
I am the arbitrator of what is good or not.
Steven, kill the spamchancheesiness or go away.
The Hank has spoken on this matter.
The end.
lulz @ 'The Hank'
My lying, thieving, idiotic figurehead is WAY better than yours!
On 1/20/2009 Bush got a sun tan.
"A new era of responsibility."
LOL!!
I believe in change!
Then why don't you start with your underware.
toolman, you crack me up.
Irish gets his underware ate ACE. They kept him from washing away in the flood.
How was that, by the way?
I'm only here to please.
the very fact that he got elected by big money to become president should tell you that he is no socialist for sure...
He's a sellout but he'll disguise the corruption as socialism rather than capitalism.
Also the unions put a lot of money towards him. Fucking auto unions gave something like 50 mil to his campaign while refusing to give an inch to the auto companies.
looks like the mucho members don't even know what socialism is.
Or a representative republic, even.
yak, that's what makes submitting stuff like this so much fun.
oh i know steven.. thats why its always funny when shit like this or like the other thing tonight with michael moore got posted
yeah, i think poss submitted that for exactly the same reason.
gotta love retarded discussions on mucho!
Posting something just to get a reaction, that's pretty low.
i posted it cuz' i found the pic amusing,
the ensuing hilarity/moronity in the comments is just the icing on the cake.
plus, every little 'tits or gtfo' bitch does the same.
Do americans think that Obama means socialism? I hope only rednecks do
Don't worry Steve, I do it all the time. I love people getting all prissy, even if its at me.
Is that why you posted that clever mouse shit?
...fuck you, that was funny!
the funny thing is that people still think there's much difference between democrats and republicans. what has really changed when this asshole took office? same bailouts, same wars, same rendition policy, same illicit wiretapping. the only difference is that now we have an asshole in office who is a good communicator. he has managed to dupe millions of morons into thinking he gives a fuck about them. and that makes him worse than bush in a very real way.
tired guy i could kiss you right now but you still didnt swallow my load so ill wait.
good show, old chap.
^Racists.
Holy shit, I just agreed with Tired Guy.
Surely there's a vaccination for that?
Americans are morons. Every new President is the end of the world. They'll never really embrace the socialism that Europe does because they'd never pay the taxes it takes to prop up a socialist state. Just more of this back and forth extreme bullshit. 4 to 8 years from now it'll go the other way.
Socialism is fine for people with that mindset who can live that way, but this particular country was founded on individual rights, so I think it's fair to say if you want government force behind your socialism or communism or whatever then you should fuck off to another country.
Because the citizens of a country can't change it if they want.
Most citizens are Christian. Would it be ok for 51% of them to vote Christianity as the US religion and force everyone to accept it?
No.
It appears to be 'Recent Searches' time!
- trust you with the kids
- donkey women
- guy faps while fisting
- under short poop
Bicho's looking for "women" again?
too bad most idiots out there think that nothing in America is socialized. Ever heard of the fire dept=socialized fire protection. Police dept = socialized public security. But Socialized med care = evil.
First, you could argue the constitution almost requires those first two. Second, health care is a far more complex matter than those other two. Otherwise the bill wouldn't be a foot thick.
Fuck all you Obama haters. fuckers block all the progress just because the brain-dead right wing scam artists like Rush, Glenn, Sean, Bill, on and on spoon feed you their horseshit and you eat it up.
All I read is people bitching about capitalism because it's so bad. It is so horrible. Maybe if your shitty parents (or lack thereof) actualy amounted to something then you wouldn't think that way eh? "Progress" is for fucktards that are either lazy as shit or don't understand CAUSE and EFFECT. Both are hand in hand.