totally true, if theres a kid that doesnt play with guns its because his fag ass liberal pussy parents wont let him
a childhood friend of mine had a real crazy bitch for a mom and when she saw us pretending to shoot each other she suggested we pretend to shoot imaginary squirrels and deer instead
Ah, but the picture on the right is a little girl holding a real .22 cal junior hunting rifle. I bought one for my daughter when she was 5 and it was decorated with Hello Kitty.
Plant I was serious, I wouldn't shoot you unless you started acting all squirrely and shit, in that case I'd probably just knock you out with a tree branch and dump you at the KOA.
Honestly it's quite fun, from the hillbilly level to the competitive level. Pistol and rifle matches are quite challenging, there's a bit of science to it as well. I've done some IPSC timed scenarios and it's a kick in the ass!
Think about it oranjie. Deja would be all looking over at you and Yak would eventually see that there was something there and some kind of domestic disturbance would ensue. She's looking out for BOTH of you.
uh, yeah... not that i would go to any social mucho gathering for one... oranjeboom is definitely not my type for me to even give him a second look, and i definitely don't fall into his type (ugly retarded chicks)
I need to put my hatred for you aside for one comment Hank. Smerf? You fucking life-noobish ginger toss-bucket. Way to show you know nothing about women or pregnancy. Was what you said supposed to be revealing? It was. It revealed you're a cunt, and have never reproduced (thank God). You can have sex with your pregnant female for as long as it feels comfortable to her. It's not recommended after her waters have broken...for obvious reasons (i.e infection risk).
it is important to introduce children to guns early. teach them respect for firearms and why it is our founding fathers saw it necessary to include the right to bear arms in the bill of rights. if you don't know why, you should not have a gun, or an opinion on the matter.
that's why we have a president into gun control and weak, fearful, brainwashed masses. the next false flag event is coming!
stock up the canned goods and the ammo bitches, the end of an age is neigh!
my local gun store owner (in a town of only 4,000-5,000) said he sold just as much ammo the day after the election as he had sold from January up to election day. The place looked like they had a fire sale.
I don't think that ANYONE who's on mucho is right wing...I just like guns and hunting. Obviously you're one of those left wing loonies who is so quick to call all gun owners right wing. I guess ignorance is bliss.
Today I went to the:
1. Bakery
2. Car Dealership
3. Work
4. Restaurant
5. Work.. again
6. Bank
7. Beer store (not a bar).
All while legally armed. You haven't been here long enough to appreciate peoples sarcasm, but that's cool. I pretty much made this comment to annoy Oranje anyway.:)
settle, beerman, settle
i get ya -
dont agree with ya, but i get ya
personally, i hate folks who take pleasure in killing animals for sport
almost as much as i hate emo-fag vegetarians like mikebeez...
...just my personal opinion...
I eat everything I kill. Hanging their heads on the wall is just an added bonus. I agree killing for sport is irresponsible and gives hunters like me a bad name. And btw Roland, you're not supposed to have firearms in banks even if you're legal to carry...but i guess u already knew that so i'll keep my noob mouth shut.
Welcome, Ted! i've never seen many celebrities on this site before now...
...just between you and me and the lampost - what are yak and deja really like?
if everyone followed the four rules of firearms, no one would EVER get shot accidentally. i think everyone smart enough to have one, should have one. the right to bear arms was built into the bill of rights so that the people could overthrow the government if it became corrupt/too powerful - contrary to what most people think, it's not in the constitution for peoples' personal protection
beerman, you can't carry in schools, churches, bars, and federal buildings where I live. Banks are okay. Weirdly enough, most mass shootings occur in schools and churches..
I am so fucking Right wing, I only fly on airplanes that have 2 right wings! I am all for glassing the middle east and all its cockroaches and sand-niggers. Then we should crack the glass and take the oil. Then we should nuke 'em again for good measure. In the name of God, of course.
lol, Ya America is fucked up because they have toy guns for kids. Don't take a look at the middle east where they give them real ones and then make them murder people at 12.
That's actually not a toy gun. It's called a Cricket i think Savage makes them, they're a single shot 22. Teach them young I say, but that might be a little too young there
i wouldn't say "low crime rate"... where do you get that info from? kind of hard to believe that there isn't much crime when their whole culture is corrupt compared to our standards of right and wrong.
You're obviously the expert on Middle Eastern culture, cold. How many years did you live there again? Please, enlighten us with your unfathomable wisdom.
I think its true most of those countries such as-Iraq,Iran,Lebenon,Syria,UAE,Saudi Arabia etc.,all have low crime rates.Their punishment system is way disproportional in relation to the crimes.
With the freedom we have in the US,we are going to have bad shit happen like Virginia Tech.
That crazy fucker could have fashioned a bomb to dispense with those poor people if he was determined.
well from what ive gathered (not too much) prison populations are lower over there. murder rates are damn close to major us cities, but petty crimes are way lower.
One thing i wanna know is would murder rates really change without guns? I don't think so. How many psychos do you hear of that stab people 100 times. I would gladly take a bullet over that shit anyday. And how did cavemen kill each other...blunt objects and sharpened stones. People will always find a way to kill other people. Having a gun makes that mother fucker who wants to kill me think twice because we're equally matched.
hmm, josh--illegal burying, that's a crime. it's hard to compare crime in cultures when they have completely different opinions of what crime even is. and if you want to select things like theft/rape/murder alone, should we include those which have been committed under declaration of war?
Not quite... American's are, on some level, trained solders from birth. It helps protect the population from "The Red Scare"--a mutating fear of Non-Capitalist, or Christian nations. But Europe, being comprised of many countries, doesn't need armed civilians. This helps to lessen international crimes issues.
"We needs guns to protect ourselves from our government. The right to bear arms was built into the bill of rights so that the people could overthrow the government if it became corrupt/too powerful."
all the right-wing (yes, right-wing) nutballs are shitting themselves now, in the delusion that they will soon be "gunning up" to fight obama's military. it's pretty fucking hilarious, especially since i moved some of my investments into armory just in anticipation of these fuckwits.
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
There's stuff out there by the people who wrote up the constitution and declaration of independence and shit. They intended people to be armed to prevent the government from overstepping it's bounds. Jefferson thought there should be a revolution every couple decades to prevent the government from getting too powerful and the people from getting too pussy.
Thats TiredFag's ultimate wet dream-unarmed citizens and free reign for uncle slam.That Jefferson was a smart fellar.We do need to have a revolt every 30-50 years.Fuck we need to execute a revolt right now in California like you cant believe.
It always makes me wonder what this country would be like if everyone was like Tired. These ignorant, left wing, peace loving (unless you disagree with them), crybabies don't respect the fact that we wouldn't have a country without a guns help.
Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.
In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunken guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the muggers potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.
People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst.
The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.
When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
Because, ya know, what 1rish just said really needed to be so long. It would have been impossible to say 'guns put people on an equal footing' in 7 words....
Oranje, you're probably right minus the trial part.. For it to come to that though, the powers that be would have to push people pretty far for them to actually turn the fucking tv off and do something. Beer and football(both kinds) seem to keep people placated quite well.
The problem being that I read the same point over and over again.
Like George Orwell said, there is no need to use big words when small words will do, & there is no need to use 2 when 1 will do.
So your "too much for you" bollocks just makes you look silly. If you had the intelligence to do it, you would have managed to make your point in fewer words.
"We should do something"
"Yeahhhh!"
"We need to rise up and take back control away from this power hungry oppressive government"
"How do you wanna do this"
"Me?"
"Well, me too"
"Us?"
"Of course"
"Dude that could be a little dangerous, & ya know, difficult"
"You're probably righ, lets let other people do it"
"Yeahhhh"
"Yeahhhh"
I'm no longer going to bed. I didn't get up until 1:30 ish today, so I didn't get tired till late. Now I've been Muchoing so long, its pretty pointless going to bed, 'cause I'm getting picked up in about 3 1/2 hours.
My theory is that if I stay up all day tomorrow & go to bed at a reasonable time, my sleeping pattern will go back to normal.
Find out who's tea it was. Find that company's flag. The whole story falls apart. It also fucks up the story about the 13 red and white bars on the US flag representing the colonies.
At the time of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776, the United States had no official national flag. The Grand Union Flag has historically been referred to as the "First National Flag"; although it has never had any official status, it was used throughout the American Revolutionary War by George Washington and formed the basis for the design of the first official U.S. flag. The origins of the design are unclear. It closely resembles the British East India Company (BEIC) flag of the same era, and an argument dating to Sir Charles Fawcett in 1937 holds that the BEIC flag indeed inspired the design.[35] However, the BEIC flag could have from 9 to 13 stripes, and was not allowed to be flown outside the Indian Ocean.[36] Both flags could have been easily constructed by adding white stripes to a British Red Ensign, a common flag throughout Britain and its colonies.
Who owns what guns....seriously. (Not your daddy's)
I've got two 30-30's
Browning 5 Shot Auto 12ga.
Ruger p911
Desert Eagle .50
Ak-47
and a AR 15 with acog and front grip
Nice...Marlins are junk. Had a marlin once, i was gettin ready to chamber a round and the cover for the loading tube just popped off...needless to say the deer got away. Been with winchester ever since model 1894 best brush gun ever.
I use the AR for hunting...people would think it's over kill, but it's not. .233 with 5.56 means knockdown power without ruining the meat. Virtually no kick either. Just got an eight point about 3 weeks ago 260lbs.
yeah 223's are more for varmits than deer, but if you're a good shot they're very capable of killing almost anything. My pride and joy gun is a Henry Big Boy-44 mag lever action, gold plated receiver octagon barrel, beautiful gun. also have the golden boy same gun cept it's a .17 HMR, i've dropped lots of coyotes with that gun.
Oranje? Let's fight.
Duuuuude...what we call guns here in UK hardly compares to the delightful options they have stateside. We are so deprived in UK. Sucks.
Funny though...Americans are definitely some of the most retarded people on Earth, and get to effortlessly own some of the most powerful firearms on the planet. I don't know why there isn't MORE homicide in the US.
(They get to own dangerous animals too...and monkeys/monkies).
Probably cruel, but we can have shotguns & rifles etc. Hell, you can get a .50 cal sniper rifle if you can show the police you have somewhere to shoot the thing.
Obviously we can't have pistols though. That is a little unfortunate. That should be a licence available for them too, is you ask me.
I was a teeny bit wrong, .22s are out, but in the letter of the law, I can't see why you couldn't have a .44 long barrel Magnum...
"Handguns are banned in England. This applies to any firearm with an overall length of less than 30 cm. However muzzle-loading handguns are permitted" That's from the Metropolitan Police Firearms Licensing Team. 30cm? there's a few available with 10" barrel options which puts them well over the size restriction.
Haha rish! I nearly almost like you again after that comment. Props. Fucking faggot.
Have you been drinking Oranje? 'That should be a licence available for them too, is you ask me'?
Dunblane fucked it up for us all.
Yup, the typical knee jerk government reaction, one person fucks up and everybody gets hammered. "But he legally owned those guns!" Everyone cried, and there was the end of gun ownership. The blame doesn't really lie with the guy that shot folk, but the people that gave a slobbering loon the permit in the first place. Who was it? Oh yeah, the government...
Amen Fugs. This country is such a fucking joke...freedom-taking, assraping, nanny state. We even have the 'hoods down to shop in our town' thing where I live. Ever seen that?
A long time ago when I was a law student, we had a visit from one of the lawyers on the Dunblane case. He gave this really deep and impressive talk on the case and gun ownership in general. At the end, nobody clapped...it was very odd...but then...we were all a bit retarded where I studied.
Fighting the tiredness on Mucho with the comment addiction is quite typical...what with most members being American/Canadian...the time difference gets to us.
But I'm fucking off now...coming up to 4AM and still on Mucho is not good...even if I am unemployed (again) at the moment.
Peace out cuntfaces.
Yeah, Cruel, it's started to creep in up here too. I sometimes deliberately wear my hoodie to go shopping, because we have around 20% Asian population, so I'll argue that if they remove their black ski masks of death, I'll put my hood down. One rule for all...
we werent, a hundred years ago
and we wont be, a hundred years from now...
the Huns were a world super power for a while - did they go down in history in a positive light?
...i'm just saying that being strong doesnt make us smart, or noble, or "right"...
but look in the last hundred years how many times we bailed out other countries, with great personal sacrifice. I just can't see how other countries won't back us up. (US, i'm no fuckin jet lag brit)
The Roman Empire lasted about 600 years (depending where you count from/ to) the US will not be able to do the same. Bailing out one country pisses off three others, not a smart policy.
I don't care if your a dude or a chick, I love you Deja. I have been waiting hours to hear someone else say that. We have a crumbling infrastructure. School budgets are tied up in buying state of the art metal detectors, and we're loosing jobs so fast. This country is going down faster than MikeBeez at the million man march. I want to move to Vancoover
I agree Deja... The US is hurting right now, but not as bad as people think. The whole worlds economy is fucked. Toyota is shutting down for 11 days throughout Feb and Mar. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/business/worldbusiness/07toyota.html?hp
Were not doing so bad compared to other countries. That being said is not my point, the US has come to the aid of numerous countries without question. How quickly they forget who saves asses.
I am so sorry Mr. Reply button...I should of pressed you so that people can follow the flow of the conversation...far be it for anyone to ever approach this situation
Comments to Europeans v. USA
we also play with fake guns when we are young, hoping we will get real guns when we are older, but we dont and get sad.
army men!
Plant, if you're ever in the U.S. near the Rockies, I'd be glad to take you out shooting..
It's Dick Cheney all over again
you mean you take me out in the woods and shoot me in the head and bury me.....no one will miss the Swedish by-passing tourist. Is that your plan?
Yes.
no one ever misses Swedes, period
well there was this hot Swedish...nvm she was from Norway.
guns are awesome. go america.
totally true, if theres a kid that doesnt play with guns its because his fag ass liberal pussy parents wont let him
a childhood friend of mine had a real crazy bitch for a mom and when she saw us pretending to shoot each other she suggested we pretend to shoot imaginary squirrels and deer instead
what lies, i know you like me
Ah, but the picture on the right is a little girl holding a real .22 cal junior hunting rifle. I bought one for my daughter when she was 5 and it was decorated with Hello Kitty.
Right on pat NRA all the way!
.22 cal arent on the ban list yet?
give it time.
I fuckin hate people who piss themselves because people own guns.FUCK EM
Plant I was serious, I wouldn't shoot you unless you started acting all squirrely and shit, in that case I'd probably just knock you out with a tree branch and dump you at the KOA.
You wanna take me shooting, huh...huh?
Honestly it's quite fun, from the hillbilly level to the competitive level. Pistol and rifle matches are quite challenging, there's a bit of science to it as well. I've done some IPSC timed scenarios and it's a kick in the ass!
Is that a yes?
I was recently looking for cheap plane tickets to some/any country where I could just wing it when I get there.
I checked out Vietnam, only to find out tickets there aren't cheap.
Anywhere in Europe is pretty much out of the question since the £ fell to pretty much level with the ⬠making expenses there, well, expensive.
I'm bored, I wanna go somewhere & do something fun.
Yeah anytime if you're anywhere near CO or WY. Be glad to..
Now I just wish I had more money to do a trip around the US visiting Muchoers. I'd probably meet up with Irish too for a nice bar fight.
Plan it for dik's and my wedding
you'd *want* oranjeboom there jamiee? really?
Oo Oo! *shuffles foot in the dust as he looks at the ground*
ha....that would be one hell of a wedding ...having all muchoers there...wow...freaky looking pictures :P
WTF Deja???
Why wouldn't she want me there?
Think about it oranjie. Deja would be all looking over at you and Yak would eventually see that there was something there and some kind of domestic disturbance would ensue. She's looking out for BOTH of you.
...
uh, yeah... not that i would go to any social mucho gathering for one... oranjeboom is definitely not my type for me to even give him a second look, and i definitely don't fall into his type (ugly retarded chicks)
I don't like ugly retarded women!!!
I have good taste in women actually. & why wouldn't jamiee want me there? I get on well with both her and dik.
Woman, you're just mean.
FYI, The United Nations says scores of Palestinians were evacuated into a house in Gaza suburbs - only for 30 to be killed in an attack 24 hours later
a mucho gathering would be a great idea..it'd have to be very fucking exclusive though
not everyone has enough money to go galavanting across countries and oceans to see each other though
Yes. We would have to restrict ourselves to no bodily fluids thrown on any guys, just the ladies.
I have lots of money but I'd prefer to spend it avoiding scum like all of you.
I sense a little reverso psychologyo.
why does the one on the right look asian?
cuase she is
I wonder how many rounds her old man bought her?
I wonder how many times her old man fucked her.
So America is all asians now?
Daddy wont touch her now
no zxcv, but there are some--quite a few actually
That would be a picture of her blowing hitlers cock if it werent for the rifle toting girl.
sepri fi
how about Semper Fi* there GunnerySgt
pretty true. we totally stirred up the shit in WWII. FOR THE WIN.
now the million dollar question is, what does Semper Fidelis mean?
always faithful
follow blindly
side note xzekiel mean fag
side note: don't speak like a caveman
fuck you i dont pronounce my s'
id do them both. but id wait like a year cause they look a little young.
be sure to post the pics
no way man, their too old already. pre-natal or bust!
You can have sex with a woman into the third trimester.
Shut the fuck up, would you, Dr. Moob.
I need to put my hatred for you aside for one comment Hank. Smerf? You fucking life-noobish ginger toss-bucket. Way to show you know nothing about women or pregnancy. Was what you said supposed to be revealing? It was. It revealed you're a cunt, and have never reproduced (thank God). You can have sex with your pregnant female for as long as it feels comfortable to her. It's not recommended after her waters have broken...for obvious reasons (i.e infection risk).
Exactly.
I have sex with them in the delivery room.
it is important to introduce children to guns early. teach them respect for firearms and why it is our founding fathers saw it necessary to include the right to bear arms in the bill of rights. if you don't know why, you should not have a gun, or an opinion on the matter.
We will need the second amendment more than ever soon.
correct.
that's why we have a president into gun control and weak, fearful, brainwashed masses. the next false flag event is coming!
stock up the canned goods and the ammo bitches, the end of an age is neigh!
Fucking right wing loonies...
my local gun store owner (in a town of only 4,000-5,000) said he sold just as much ammo the day after the election as he had sold from January up to election day. The place looked like they had a fire sale.
I don't think that ANYONE who's on mucho is right wing...I just like guns and hunting. Obviously you're one of those left wing loonies who is so quick to call all gun owners right wing. I guess ignorance is bliss.
Today I went to the:
1. Bakery
2. Car Dealership
3. Work
4. Restaurant
5. Work.. again
6. Bank
7. Beer store (not a bar).
All while legally armed. You haven't been here long enough to appreciate peoples sarcasm, but that's cool. I pretty much made this comment to annoy Oranje anyway.:)
settle, beerman, settle
i get ya -
dont agree with ya, but i get ya
personally, i hate folks who take pleasure in killing animals for sport
almost as much as i hate emo-fag vegetarians like mikebeez...
...just my personal opinion...
I eat everything I kill. Hanging their heads on the wall is just an added bonus. I agree killing for sport is irresponsible and gives hunters like me a bad name. And btw Roland, you're not supposed to have firearms in banks even if you're legal to carry...but i guess u already knew that so i'll keep my noob mouth shut.
Welcome, Ted! i've never seen many celebrities on this site before now...
...just between you and me and the lampost - what are yak and deja really like?
The Nuge in 2012!
if everyone followed the four rules of firearms, no one would EVER get shot accidentally. i think everyone smart enough to have one, should have one. the right to bear arms was built into the bill of rights so that the people could overthrow the government if it became corrupt/too powerful - contrary to what most people think, it's not in the constitution for peoples' personal protection
Possum, I ain't the Nuge..
beerman, you can't carry in schools, churches, bars, and federal buildings where I live. Banks are okay. Weirdly enough, most mass shootings occur in schools and churches..
And the sad thing is, most people don't know that. Wait til the brownshirts come around and they might wise up a little...to late.
*too late
nuge?! nuge is the man! but aren't you guys forgetting the real reason we have guns? to keep out of hand governments in line.
i guess u didn't read what cold wrote up above.
we need to use them on the banks
if i had a gun i don't think i'd have killed anyone but i'm pretty sure i'd have shot a few guys in the foot
I am so fucking Right wing, I only fly on airplanes that have 2 right wings! I am all for glassing the middle east and all its cockroaches and sand-niggers. Then we should crack the glass and take the oil. Then we should nuke 'em again for good measure. In the name of God, of course.
lol...dik..you may also shoot your own foot trying to play quick draw
that pussy would run away screaming if he ever saw a gun
I'm a convicted felon so i'm not supposed to own a gun, but what they don't know wont send me back, gotta protect my self.
hate it when there are dozens of inane comments that don't relate to the original, but suffice it to say that josh is retarded.
Only an idiot would be surprised at the deviation of a thread. As if conversations done face to face don't succumb to meandering minds.
i thought this whole web site was inane comments....
Why, what were you talking about?
I hate when TiredGuy tells us what he hates.
every time oranje makes a comment, i learn a new word....
this proves that mucho supports higher education for minorities
^sweet, another subject change
Minorites & Higher Education....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. (*_*)
haha Tyrone & Ill be taking that as a compliment. I'm not sure how it was meant, but I am regardless.
How do I become regardless?
Suck as many dicks as oranje and you can call yourself whatever you want.
Oh ok I'll just ....oh you almost got me. You!
lol, Ya America is fucked up because they have toy guns for kids. Don't take a look at the middle east where they give them real ones and then make them murder people at 12.
That's actually not a toy gun. It's called a Cricket i think Savage makes them, they're a single shot 22. Teach them young I say, but that might be a little too young there
cricket eh? i think you've been watching too much "men in black" movies ;/
yes the cricket, they've only made them for a couple years now. I wish i would've had one as a child, especially if it was pink.
Actually most middle eastern countries have pretty low crime rates since their punishments are basically death for anything lol.
Why the fuck would you compare the US, a first world nation to the shit stain of the world anyways dumbass?
Because Hisa idiot!
i wouldn't say "low crime rate"... where do you get that info from? kind of hard to believe that there isn't much crime when their whole culture is corrupt compared to our standards of right and wrong.
...
yeah... THEY'RE the corrupt ones.
So kinda like MS 13 or Virginia Tech?
You're obviously the expert on Middle Eastern culture, cold. How many years did you live there again? Please, enlighten us with your unfathomable wisdom.
I think its true most of those countries such as-Iraq,Iran,Lebenon,Syria,UAE,Saudi Arabia etc.,all have low crime rates.Their punishment system is way disproportional in relation to the crimes.
With the freedom we have in the US,we are going to have bad shit happen like Virginia Tech.
That crazy fucker could have fashioned a bomb to dispense with those poor people if he was determined.
wait, is that a fact? im checking that one out, quickdraw
well from what ive gathered (not too much) prison populations are lower over there. murder rates are damn close to major us cities, but petty crimes are way lower.
it was said that murder rates are hard to trace in the middle east because people bury loved ones without notifying authorities
One thing i wanna know is would murder rates really change without guns? I don't think so. How many psychos do you hear of that stab people 100 times. I would gladly take a bullet over that shit anyday. And how did cavemen kill each other...blunt objects and sharpened stones. People will always find a way to kill other people. Having a gun makes that mother fucker who wants to kill me think twice because we're equally matched.
i read that as "how did cameramen kill each other".....
There jimi I updated my shit so now u can make fun of my other business venture too. your welcome.
hmm, josh--illegal burying, that's a crime. it's hard to compare crime in cultures when they have completely different opinions of what crime even is. and if you want to select things like theft/rape/murder alone, should we include those which have been committed under declaration of war?
It's not the gun that kills people, but I suppose it's a hell of a difference when the blood is running down your arm.
Every kid in my neighborhood had at least a pellet gun growing up and a lot of us had .22s.
you also played with each others dicks
No, that must have been your neighborhood.
Shouldn't the one on the right be morbidly obese?
lol. Yeah, and the one on the left should be all ugly in the face.
so, european girls are trained to be sluts to give blowjobs and americans will train asians to protect our country?
Not quite... American's are, on some level, trained solders from birth. It helps protect the population from "The Red Scare"--a mutating fear of Non-Capitalist, or Christian nations. But Europe, being comprised of many countries, doesn't need armed civilians. This helps to lessen international crimes issues.
AMERICA, FUCK YEA!!!!!
1 2 3 4 CANADA DESERVE MORE...money
A-Fuckin'-Men Abe!
Gun rights = double edged sword
I support sword rights too.
I think we should go back to close combat weapons. If EVERYONE was armed, no one would do shit for fear of everyone else killing them.
they should make double edged guns
Don't bring a sword to a gun fight.
Even if double edged, the equation is still:
gun > swords.
Unless you're like Musashi or something.
I want a gun that shoots swords.
a double edged gun that shoots swords out of both ends....and the swords have guns on them
move to mexico while you still can gringos, before they shut down the border
It obviously isn't that hard to sneak across.
why the fuck would anyone want to move to mexico? (and the border isn't being shut down, it's being opened)
the european one is a lot hotter
i dont know about that, the yank looks a lot like an asian from this distance, which is pretty hot in my book.
"We needs guns to protect ourselves from our government. The right to bear arms was built into the bill of rights so that the people could overthrow the government if it became corrupt/too powerful."
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Yeah right. Good look with that!
the misinterpretation of that amendment to the american constitution is mind-bogglingly stupid
all the right-wing (yes, right-wing) nutballs are shitting themselves now, in the delusion that they will soon be "gunning up" to fight obama's military. it's pretty fucking hilarious, especially since i moved some of my investments into armory just in anticipation of these fuckwits.
Invest in tear gas companies.
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
There's stuff out there by the people who wrote up the constitution and declaration of independence and shit. They intended people to be armed to prevent the government from overstepping it's bounds. Jefferson thought there should be a revolution every couple decades to prevent the government from getting too powerful and the people from getting too pussy.
Yeah & you get the Patriot Act instead, go figure...
Thats TiredFag's ultimate wet dream-unarmed citizens and free reign for uncle slam.That Jefferson was a smart fellar.We do need to have a revolt every 30-50 years.Fuck we need to execute a revolt right now in California like you cant believe.
It always makes me wonder what this country would be like if everyone was like Tired. These ignorant, left wing, peace loving (unless you disagree with them), crybabies don't respect the fact that we wouldn't have a country without a guns help.
Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.
In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some.
When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220-pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunken guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.
There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the muggers potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed.
People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.
Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst.
The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.
When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.
I got as far as Human beings, I'm now oficially sleeping.
That's how you spell officially when you're asleep.
I'm awake now, "only have tw...Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
for fucks sake irish, 10 words
1rish1, you need to send that to your congressman.
thats Congressman Dildo (D) to him
Because, ya know, what 1rish just said really needed to be so long. It would have been impossible to say 'guns put people on an equal footing' in 7 words....
HerbyVerstinks & beermanold33, like I said before; Good luck with that whole revolt thing.
I eagerly anticipate reading about your arrest & trial.
I figured it would be too much for you, Oranje. I'll try to keep it simple from now on.
Holy shit Irish!
Oranje, you're probably right minus the trial part.. For it to come to that though, the powers that be would have to push people pretty far for them to actually turn the fucking tv off and do something. Beer and football(both kinds) seem to keep people placated quite well.
Not too much Irish, I read it fine.
The problem being that I read the same point over and over again.
Like George Orwell said, there is no need to use big words when small words will do, & there is no need to use 2 when 1 will do.
So your "too much for you" bollocks just makes you look silly. If you had the intelligence to do it, you would have managed to make your point in fewer words.
Oh yeah, GO CHARGERS!
I keep most of my interaction with you short and to the point and you never seem to grasp what I'm saying.
Your tired repetitive America bashing makes you look silly.
No matter what, it'll never happen Roland.
There would be a lot of:
"We should do something"
"Yeahhhh!"
"We need to rise up and take back control away from this power hungry oppressive government"
"How do you wanna do this"
"Me?"
"Well, me too"
"Us?"
"Of course"
"Dude that could be a little dangerous, & ya know, difficult"
"You're probably righ, lets let other people do it"
"Yeahhhh"
"Yeahhhh"
So forth & so on...
That was kind of my point.
We Yanks have been known to hold one hell of a tea party, though..
*Waves arm in the air*
Hey, I need a napkin, I just got served!
goodnight, oj :)
on the other hand - it's only a few minutes til 12 AM EST now...
I'm no longer going to bed. I didn't get up until 1:30 ish today, so I didn't get tired till late. Now I've been Muchoing so long, its pretty pointless going to bed, 'cause I'm getting picked up in about 3 1/2 hours.
My theory is that if I stay up all day tomorrow & go to bed at a reasonable time, my sleeping pattern will go back to normal.
I'm loading up a few episonde of The Big Bang Theory. That show is awsome.
Penny; wow!
I'm guessing Irish cut and pasted that.
He did. Still good little diatribe. Original from Maj. L. Caudill USMC.
Tea party was a setup.
Find out who's tea it was. Find that company's flag. The whole story falls apart. It also fucks up the story about the 13 red and white bars on the US flag representing the colonies.
You want to elaborate on that. You paranoid conspiracy theorist.
Was it the people who today make Bush feign is full blown idiocy.
wow, that was a hell of a good read.
hej all
Cake Duck Cock out!
Naw, if you find it for yourself you won't go all hankypoo on me. Everything you need is in my post.
I'm curious & will read anything you point me in the direction of.
I'm just not in the mood for going from page to page trying to find out what you're talking about.
Right...
The tea belonged to the East India Company, correct? The flag has stripes like that of the American flag.
The companies flag inspired the stars and stripes, is that everything?
More likely it was based on a flag of the Sons of Liberty, one of which consisted of 13 red and white alternating horizontal stripes.
At the time of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, July 4, 1776, the United States had no official national flag. The Grand Union Flag has historically been referred to as the "First National Flag"; although it has never had any official status, it was used throughout the American Revolutionary War by George Washington and formed the basis for the design of the first official U.S. flag. The origins of the design are unclear. It closely resembles the British East India Company (BEIC) flag of the same era, and an argument dating to Sir Charles Fawcett in 1937 holds that the BEIC flag indeed inspired the design.[35] However, the BEIC flag could have from 9 to 13 stripes, and was not allowed to be flown outside the Indian Ocean.[36] Both flags could have been easily constructed by adding white stripes to a British Red Ensign, a common flag throughout Britain and its colonies.
Why a set up. What did the EIC gain from causing trouble over the tax on tea?
the Parliament of Great Britain took over the company
Neverminmd i dont think you were asking me that question
Who owns what guns....seriously. (Not your daddy's)
I've got two 30-30's
Browning 5 Shot Auto 12ga.
Ruger p911
Desert Eagle .50
Ak-47
and a AR 15 with acog and front grip
And it is beautiful when I take girls Shootin'
Can I have your Desert Eagle, please. You've already got enough with the others.
It's a piece of shit...Hands aren't big enough for the grip, and it kicks unnaturally
Marlins or Winchesters on the 30-30's?
Winchesters...Cali. Gold Rush with the sterling silver bullets and a Sterling Silver one with the Silver bullets Very nice never been fired
Browning 5 Shot Auto 12ga. is my pride and joy...Auto 12ga. 00Buck- slugs- or even a 3' Mag. Turkey shot....DESTRUCTION!!!!
Nice...Marlins are junk. Had a marlin once, i was gettin ready to chamber a round and the cover for the loading tube just popped off...needless to say the deer got away. Been with winchester ever since model 1894 best brush gun ever.
I use the AR for hunting...people would think it's over kill, but it's not. .233 with 5.56 means knockdown power without ruining the meat. Virtually no kick either. Just got an eight point about 3 weeks ago 260lbs.
yeah 223's are more for varmits than deer, but if you're a good shot they're very capable of killing almost anything. My pride and joy gun is a Henry Big Boy-44 mag lever action, gold plated receiver octagon barrel, beautiful gun. also have the golden boy same gun cept it's a .17 HMR, i've dropped lots of coyotes with that gun.
Nice... I wish I could buy a AUG, but apparently there are only a few in the US, so their value is off the charts, but it would be nice.
yeah damn europeans don't even like guns...i'd go for a p90 but aug's are pretty cool
My hands fit the DE quite well, and I got used to the silly rotating kick on them, and the sound (indoor range) is just, well, kablammy-tastic.
Semi-auto shotguns are for classless fags.
Break action O/U for clays/targets of any sort, & a S/S for grousing/hunting.
& yes we 'Europeans' are allowed & do own guns. Regardless of what you Americans choose to believe.
We just don't allow any old fool to keep them. Sooner or later you'll remember that.
I happened to like the Browning shotgun I got to play with, you bastard! O/Us and S/Ss are for people who miss first time...
Oranje? Let's fight.
Duuuuude...what we call guns here in UK hardly compares to the delightful options they have stateside. We are so deprived in UK. Sucks.
Funny though...Americans are definitely some of the most retarded people on Earth, and get to effortlessly own some of the most powerful firearms on the planet. I don't know why there isn't MORE homicide in the US.
(They get to own dangerous animals too...and monkeys/monkies).
I agree Under/Overs are the most "sportsman" shotguns...but I'm talking about the feel. Nothing compares to my 12ga.
Yeah, I'm talking 12 gauge too. I want a Browning B425. As of now though, they are a little too expensive for me.
Probably cruel, but we can have shotguns & rifles etc. Hell, you can get a .50 cal sniper rifle if you can show the police you have somewhere to shoot the thing.
Obviously we can't have pistols though. That is a little unfortunate. That should be a licence available for them too, is you ask me.
Hell, over here the monkies with guns are the problem.
There is, although I think it's restricted to .22, unless it's a muzzle loader. Yay for flintlocks!
Well, yeah, but, ya know...a .22 or muzzle loader? No thanks.
I've got a 33 ounce baseball bat that works just fine. Sorry guys, I'd never take the risk with my kids here in the house. Safes or not.
I was a teeny bit wrong, .22s are out, but in the letter of the law, I can't see why you couldn't have a .44 long barrel Magnum...
"Handguns are banned in England. This applies to any firearm with an overall length of less than 30 cm. However muzzle-loading handguns are permitted" That's from the Metropolitan Police Firearms Licensing Team. 30cm? there's a few available with 10" barrel options which puts them well over the size restriction.
Haha rish! I nearly almost like you again after that comment. Props. Fucking faggot.
Have you been drinking Oranje? 'That should be a licence available for them too, is you ask me'?
Dunblane fucked it up for us all.
Yup, the typical knee jerk government reaction, one person fucks up and everybody gets hammered. "But he legally owned those guns!" Everyone cried, and there was the end of gun ownership. The blame doesn't really lie with the guy that shot folk, but the people that gave a slobbering loon the permit in the first place. Who was it? Oh yeah, the government...
Not drinking no, but I am uber tired. I should really go to sleep but im kinda fighting it for some reason...?
Amen Fugs. This country is such a fucking joke...freedom-taking, assraping, nanny state. We even have the 'hoods down to shop in our town' thing where I live. Ever seen that?
A long time ago when I was a law student, we had a visit from one of the lawyers on the Dunblane case. He gave this really deep and impressive talk on the case and gun ownership in general. At the end, nobody clapped...it was very odd...but then...we were all a bit retarded where I studied.
Winchester lever action .30-30s are niiiiice little guns.
A guy at my gym is a mall security guard and he was telling me it is against the mall rules to wear your hood up here too.
Fighting the tiredness on Mucho with the comment addiction is quite typical...what with most members being American/Canadian...the time difference gets to us.
But I'm fucking off now...coming up to 4AM and still on Mucho is not good...even if I am unemployed (again) at the moment.
Peace out cuntfaces.
Yeah, Cruel, it's started to creep in up here too. I sometimes deliberately wear my hoodie to go shopping, because we have around 20% Asian population, so I'll argue that if they remove their black ski masks of death, I'll put my hood down. One rule for all...
You mean you go to the gym with LSD?
Like... wow, man!
Yes, you're right, its bed time.
Fucking time difference. If Mucho updated at 12 our time, things would be different around here.
DIFFERENT I TELL YOU, DIFFERENT!!!
Fuck! I didn't realise it was that time.
I'm off, us old folk need their sleep.
Good, now that those stupid Brits are gone we can have some decent intellectual conversations.
Yea, you fag.
Don't invite that cunt j0sh then. He's almost too retarded...like retarded enough to make me think he is foreign.
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Yeah right. Good look with that!
(now I'm going)
1rish was right. If you take the blacks out of the equation, American and the UK basically have the same murder rate.
Not true
Ok, you win, America would have a lower murder rate.
Guns don't kill people. I do.
USA = World Super Power... just a thought.
we werent, a hundred years ago
and we wont be, a hundred years from now...
the Huns were a world super power for a while - did they go down in history in a positive light?
...i'm just saying that being strong doesnt make us smart, or noble, or "right"...
Take us for example..
but look in the last hundred years how many times we bailed out other countries, with great personal sacrifice. I just can't see how other countries won't back us up. (US, i'm no fuckin jet lag brit)
The Roman Empire lasted about 600 years (depending where you count from/ to) the US will not be able to do the same. Bailing out one country pisses off three others, not a smart policy.
perhaps if the us would go about fixing itself instead of trying to 'fix' the rest of the world... other countries might like you guys better
I don't care if your a dude or a chick, I love you Deja. I have been waiting hours to hear someone else say that. We have a crumbling infrastructure. School budgets are tied up in buying state of the art metal detectors, and we're loosing jobs so fast. This country is going down faster than MikeBeez at the million man march. I want to move to Vancoover
fuck the person pointing out spelling mistakes..they got the point
I agree Deja... The US is hurting right now, but not as bad as people think. The whole worlds economy is fucked. Toyota is shutting down for 11 days throughout Feb and Mar. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/business/worldbusiness/07toyota.html?hp
Were not doing so bad compared to other countries. That being said is not my point, the US has come to the aid of numerous countries without question. How quickly they forget who saves asses.
So Beerman and I are the only two people on here who actually own guns? That defies the odds
No your not. You guys are just the only ones that talk guns on a website known for cock holsters, not gun holsters.
Ranger--is that your military status? Are you stationed at Bragg? I want WP can u get me some?
No I've been out since 2005 and if I had WP i would probably ask what you needed it for
Even if I owned guns I would tell everyone that I sold them a couple years back.
SWIM has 2 Pistols and 4 Rifles.
Dude, there is so much I could do with just 1 WP grenade. But it would be hard to decide. Of course I wouldn't hurt anyone.
Just like you didn't hurt that reply button's feelings? Huh?! Go apologize, right now mister!
I am so sorry Mr. Reply button...I should of pressed you so that people can follow the flow of the conversation...far be it for anyone to ever approach this situation
Goddamnit man! Get it together!