we just picked 2 copies of this up today and a ps3 for admin :P
as far as consoles go, i prefer them to pc's for a lot of games personally... i hate computers so much i don't like being on them to play games as well mucho and crap, which sucks cuz the best rts games are for pc, as well as warhammer online which we are in beta for is pc ;)
i saw this game played on a huge screen at work yesterday, and i also got to try it out for a while. it looks a lot better than the PS2 GTA's, and has better gameplay and physics. the ragdolls when you or an NPC is hit by a car are pretty fucking cool.
i'm thinking about buying a PS3 with GTA4 as soon as i have time.
ive been reading some articles interviewing various publishers and it seems that lots of them are starting to favor ps3 just for the fact that they can dev on bluray disc for the added size... however xbox is still cheaper and a lot more games... ps3 will have a few key games this year tho so have to see what they end up like... one main reason for a ps3 tho is because of bluray movies, since its basically one of the best players out still for the price
yak, a few times you have said that the 360 > PS3. The 360 has been out much longer so the number of games is obviously going to be higher. People don't just play these consoles for a few months, they last a long bloody time & more games come out, making that point redundant.
I really can't understand why you or a number of other reviewers don't take that into account when advising people to buy the 360. It is(was) such a short sighted point of view.
when i say more games i don't mean just more games.. i mean more games worth playing :P
so no.. its not redundant :p
people don't buy video game consoles to just watch them gather dust.. if the system doesn't have enough good games its not worth it.. period.... ps3 up until very recently was nothing more then a glorified media station....
as you can see most games now aren't going exclusive ps3 for the fact that ps3 has a LOT of ground to make up, can you imagine if gta would have remained exclusive playstation how huge that would have been for ps3?
ps3 has metal gear solid coming out so thats going to be interesting... so far the wii is kicking their asses so badly its not even funny tho ;/
for the system with the least amount of actual game releases it has the best signature titles... have to hand it to nintendo for that.
when i tell a person what system i think they should get i take into account a lot of factors :P
its the exact reason why yesterday we bought admin a ps3 and not an xbox :p
i felt personally that a ps3 would be a better match for him then an xbox 360 with the games that are coming out and the capabilities of the system
"people don't buy video game consoles to just watch them gather dust" - we do yak... we do :(
for the ps3 my favourite game is devil may cry 4 so far
i don't play many xbox games, so nothing comes to mind for that
the wii's my favourite so far, plus wii fit is coming out in end of may too. wii yoga everywhere!
My ex has just got a wii fit, which is fair enough cuz she's a girl, but when the guy in the office at work said he had it everybody laughed and called him gay. He's now sulking.
Nope this game does not have the large area that andreas had and has better physics as well as controls and a better story, so far from playing it. Also they took away the having to eat and exersice to keep your health up
Oh my fucken dog. Im gonna cry with joy when I play this.
Its too bad this guy has an xbox he's all over the place with both cars. I hate that controller.
Got the Special Edition monday midnight...160 people in line for regular editions...5 people in line for special...in and out in less than 10 minutes...everyone else was there for 2 or 3 hours...cheap bastards...
Actually, the controls in this GTA are harder than the others. They easily slide and it's almost impossible to hit sharp turns at high speeds cause the car just slides like crazy.
If you can still pay a whore money to fuck you/get your health back, followed by beating her down with a baseball bat afterwards to get my money back, I will buy it.
Negotiate the price? Cool, that means I can pay extra & really satisfy my fetish.
I don't have a fetish for paying a lot of money to prostitutes. She will be over the moon that I just paid her 100x her usual rate, then *WHAM* - cold steel, right under her ribs...they'll never see it coming!
I never really played san andreas so I dont know, but I like the fact that you can swim in this game...I jumped in the ocean and I was suprised to find I didnt die...and then a boat ran me over and gliched and I was in it and took over...that was sweet...
I actually got a late start into videogames. I played a little Pac-man back in the 80's and I owned a Commodore 64, but that was about it until the 1990's.
This game is by far the best game out to date. There's so much crap you can do in this game. I like messing with the pedestrains. They finally added more variety. So you don't even see double pedestrians and they say a ton of crap. The soundtrack is huge too!
i just sit and watch tv in his apartment... so its kind of like i'm playing a game of my life ;/
except in the game i have more control over my actions.
last time time i visited norway people paid like a 100 euros for a game and no one used pirate copies and shit. its insane. ANY game here is 1 euro ive got like 50 and only used 3 or somethin
Chipping your comp for the pirate copies can be a little expensive over here. That plus the paranoia of it breaking and you being left with no warranty.
We must be very risk averse & prepared to pay the extra for that little peace of mind.
Im not sure how viable my idea is & I know a lot of research would need to be carried out, buut here goes..
How about they make all games & movies free, everyone would get them & like now only the good ones will really become popular. Pack the game/movie with adverts (acceptable level, anyway) & make money that way. The audience would increase by a factor of about 50 & piracy would be all but extinct. Obviously the current system doesn't work because as you say, games are easy to acquire on copy and films are all over the net, not to mention music.
its not a bad idea. eventualy they will have to find a new solution. theyr abuse on high prizes is causing this response by the people, im for legalizing pirate shit till these greedy assholes cut down prizes
there are a lot of publishers doing this already to help suppliment their development costs and such, tons of mmorpg's are free but have advertising models, lots and lots of more games are having advertisements in them like in driving games etc are putting ads onto billboards etc, the problem is that these ads aren't easy to quantify into revenue for the advertisers, much like with television, which is why you are seeing more and more tv commercials having web addresses that they specifically use to 'catch' their effectiveness of their tv ad campaigns, same with viral video commercials...
the best thing that i've heard so far, is to put a surcharge on internet connections then start a plan to monitor/pay developers based on their distributions etc, still very rough way of how it could be done, in canada we already pay extra surcharge on our blank media (cdr dvdr etc) for this exact reason. advertising is one possible way but advertising isn't completely the answer, with movies and tv it might be one way to help, especially tv episodes, lots of people would download tv shows if they put some advertisements in them just because of the ease of getting them, the cbc (i think cbc) in canada has started looking into this, releasing tv episodes for free online, even other networks are starting to offer some of their shows online, hell with the it crowd in the uk they had the entire NEXT weeks episode on their website you could watch if you wanted before it aired on tv ;)
the world is changing and developers and stuff have to go with the flow or else die...
my huge gripe at the moment with digital distribution is the fact that it costs the EXACT same as going to the store and buying it... to protect retail stores i guess.... but it makes no sense... no cost for printing a manual.. no cost in pressing cd/dvd no cost in shipping only a cost in bandwidth (and that is fucking cheap)
Our major networks (ABC, NBC, & CBS) offer tv shows online. You can't download them, but you can watch them through their site. Ads are sprinkled throughout. You can't fast forward, you just have to sit through the 10-30 seconds of ads to get back to the show. It helps keeps fans interested if you think about it, so they'll continue to watch the regular programming which brings in bigger revenue. Plus, it lets new people watch from the beginning of the season, and hopefully "hooks" them as well.
Well I guess that I wasn't too far off of the mark with my idea then. The convenience of the internet is far too powerful of a force to compete against or try to police. Like anything else throughout history, organisations have to adapt to the external influences & piracy/copyright infringement over the web is unstoppable. As soon as they take down one site, another will pop back up in its place. As you have said that it is already happening now, I can only assume that in the near future this will roll out and become the norm. If the current producers/directors or whoever dont like it, tough shit. This is just how the world works now & they don't have monopoly over distribution any more. They either have to keep up with what is happening or they will be left behind, lose revenue & die, its inevitable.
This will mean Tom Cruise will not be paid 100mil for a movie any more. If they cut the actors salaries that would help production costs and then we wouldn't have assholes in hollywood with the money to spout off their "ideas" on how to make things better
I still like SA a lot. I can spend all day riding up and down the Las Venturas strip on a bike mowing people down til the tanks show up and then try and get to the pay-n-spray before they blast me.
Comments to For the gamers
was that whore at the end serena williams?
makes me wish I had a ps3 or a 360
yeah call me when it hits pc
these bastards are just trying to get people to buy consoles
we just picked 2 copies of this up today and a ps3 for admin :P
as far as consoles go, i prefer them to pc's for a lot of games personally... i hate computers so much i don't like being on them to play games as well mucho and crap, which sucks cuz the best rts games are for pc, as well as warhammer online which we are in beta for is pc ;)
warhammer? FUCK YOU AOC IS WHERE ITS AT
Gotta say I love my PS3. Added plus is that it plays blu-ray discs.
i saw this game played on a huge screen at work yesterday, and i also got to try it out for a while. it looks a lot better than the PS2 GTA's, and has better gameplay and physics. the ragdolls when you or an NPC is hit by a car are pretty fucking cool.
i'm thinking about buying a PS3 with GTA4 as soon as i have time.
ive been reading some articles interviewing various publishers and it seems that lots of them are starting to favor ps3 just for the fact that they can dev on bluray disc for the added size... however xbox is still cheaper and a lot more games... ps3 will have a few key games this year tho so have to see what they end up like... one main reason for a ps3 tho is because of bluray movies, since its basically one of the best players out still for the price
yak, a few times you have said that the 360 > PS3. The 360 has been out much longer so the number of games is obviously going to be higher. People don't just play these consoles for a few months, they last a long bloody time & more games come out, making that point redundant.
I really can't understand why you or a number of other reviewers don't take that into account when advising people to buy the 360. It is(was) such a short sighted point of view.
when i say more games i don't mean just more games.. i mean more games worth playing :P
so no.. its not redundant :p
people don't buy video game consoles to just watch them gather dust.. if the system doesn't have enough good games its not worth it.. period.... ps3 up until very recently was nothing more then a glorified media station....
as you can see most games now aren't going exclusive ps3 for the fact that ps3 has a LOT of ground to make up, can you imagine if gta would have remained exclusive playstation how huge that would have been for ps3?
ps3 has metal gear solid coming out so thats going to be interesting... so far the wii is kicking their asses so badly its not even funny tho ;/
for the system with the least amount of actual game releases it has the best signature titles... have to hand it to nintendo for that.
when i tell a person what system i think they should get i take into account a lot of factors :P
its the exact reason why yesterday we bought admin a ps3 and not an xbox :p
i felt personally that a ps3 would be a better match for him then an xbox 360 with the games that are coming out and the capabilities of the system
Oh..
*slowly retreats*
i have to agree with you, yak, but there are a few games coming out(including GTA4) which makes it worth for me to buy a PS3.
i'm also more drawn to the PS3 because of the the bluray player function.
^ one of the best reasons for a ps3... thats the original reason we got our ps3 actually..
"people don't buy video game consoles to just watch them gather dust" - we do yak... we do :(
for the ps3 my favourite game is devil may cry 4 so far
i don't play many xbox games, so nothing comes to mind for that
the wii's my favourite so far, plus wii fit is coming out in end of may too. wii yoga everywhere!
My ex has just got a wii fit, which is fair enough cuz she's a girl, but when the guy in the office at work said he had it everybody laughed and called him gay. He's now sulking.
What a fucking gaylord.
What a gaylord. Everyone knows if you want to lose weight you go with worms or bulimia
I can't work out why he's got it cuz he's thinner than an anorexic stick insect. I think we're right with gay.
Soooo... San Andreas with better graphics?
Nope this game does not have the large area that andreas had and has better physics as well as controls and a better story, so far from playing it. Also they took away the having to eat and exersice to keep your health up
and the dude's hard ass russian. not some pussy shit american gangsta.
i believe hes serbian?
Maybe from Uzbekistan?
I thought he was albainian
no the albanians are the other guys (the guys who are after roma)
Kerplakistan, maybe?
What, no one got the snatch reference?
Boris the Blade?
I bet drumrave is happy that he doesn't have to exercise in video games either now.
I dont care what he is...his voice is fucking annoying...
Good boy, Cheeky
I stand corrected.
Oh my fucken dog. Im gonna cry with joy when I play this.
Its too bad this guy has an xbox he's all over the place with both cars. I hate that controller.
Its not just the controller, they changed the controls...now you have to use the trigger buttons to drive...takes some getting used to...
you can change that in the controls menu
ahahahaha shake ya ass, this game must have the best soundtrack ever
no, it has the worst out of all the GTAs unfortunately. but it still kicks ass
got mine in the morn hazaa fuck you!!
got mine last midnight so fuck you
i will fuck you.. i am a congressman so fuck off so put up or shut up bitch.
^loser.
star trek sucks cocksucker
I gat mine a few hours ago. I like it.
Didn't get mine yet, buty I like what I hear so far.
Got the Special Edition monday midnight...160 people in line for regular editions...5 people in line for special...in and out in less than 10 minutes...everyone else was there for 2 or 3 hours...cheap bastards...
are you calling kirk a cocksucker congressman? that's not very nice..maybe it's you that's the cocksucker..ever consider that??..likely not cocksucker
I played GTA 2 today. It was awsome
still see its hard as fuck to drive a car.
nope this guy just sucks
Not even the AI cabby can get the controls down.
Actually, the controls in this GTA are harder than the others. They easily slide and it's almost impossible to hit sharp turns at high speeds cause the car just slides like crazy.
this is true
what the fuck did you record this with a shitty vhs 80's camcorder or is it just shitty xbox cuz my ps3 looks way better.
If you can still pay a whore money to fuck you/get your health back, followed by beating her down with a baseball bat afterwards to get my money back, I will buy it.
You sure can
And you can negotiate the price
Negotiate the price? Cool, that means I can pay extra & really satisfy my fetish.
I don't have a fetish for paying a lot of money to prostitutes. She will be over the moon that I just paid her 100x her usual rate, then *WHAM* - cold steel, right under her ribs...they'll never see it coming!
I never really played san andreas so I dont know, but I like the fact that you can swim in this game...I jumped in the ocean and I was suprised to find I didnt die...and then a boat ran me over and gliched and I was in it and took over...that was sweet...
Swimming isn't new
I didnt think so, but I hated that shit in GTA3
yeah, in GTA4 you can climb, swim and unfortunately, get thrown through the windshield of your car when you crash into something..
the driving part is very cool though.
I have been through the windshield a couple of times now
The driving took a second to get the hang of and I too have gone through the windshield. I like running over pedestrians.
i only played it for a few minutes at work, but it seemed like a really cool game. it's just the older GTA's but then better.
*like
I hate bloom lighting... it bleaches everything out like the sun is two inches from the surface.
Yeah, life-is-a-bitch!
The cab driver was for shit and charged $67.
I drive like that in real life. Stop signs, light poles... peoples... they're all fair game
Dont drive into the gas pumps they will blow up. Just found that out on accident!
Nah, I'll stick with Need for Speed...
Cruisin USA!
Crusin THE WORLD
I still prefer the original.
lol yeah, that is to us as asteroids is to Godzilla, Wario, SNIKT & all the other old fucks.
Hey, I used to play asteroids as a kid. My dentist had one of those old arcade games sitting in his front office.
I remember when Pong and Tanks were the shit! Asteroids was O.k., but I liked Centipede better.
I mean, in relative terms.
P.S. All my dentist had was a picture of Winnie the Pooh & a map of his forest, tight cunt.
Yeah right, Oranje. Everyone knows there aren't any dentists in England.
I actually got a late start into videogames. I played a little Pac-man back in the 80's and I owned a Commodore 64, but that was about it until the 1990's.
the overhead view sucked
This game is by far the best game out to date. There's so much crap you can do in this game. I like messing with the pedestrains. They finally added more variety. So you don't even see double pedestrians and they say a ton of crap. The soundtrack is huge too!
i just sit and watch tv in his apartment... so its kind of like i'm playing a game of my life ;/
except in the game i have more control over my actions.
They have a "Kat Williams" on the tv hahaha
No Deja to tell you what to do, huh?
are there motorcycles in this one?
yup
sweet
yup
I always thought these games would be more fun if the cars were just a little less tough.
I thought San Andreas got pretty boring. I stopped at the stupid "Defend the nerds shit from the RC bombers" mission.
yeah that part sucks
shut up you pair of turds
I agree with them, that part was booooooring
that part was definitely a pain in the ass..
try the next 'Zero' missions .... they were fucking rock hard !
i don't remember that, but i did finish the game..
isn't Zero the nerd?
the affeminate nerd.
just got my self a brand new pirate copy of san andreas a month ago
same shit as previous version, no new am Not going to buy a new console or this game.
because you're poor.
work is for the masses right?
It's something that scrambles his brain
last time time i visited norway people paid like a 100 euros for a game and no one used pirate copies and shit. its insane. ANY game here is 1 euro ive got like 50 and only used 3 or somethin
Chipping your comp for the pirate copies can be a little expensive over here. That plus the paranoia of it breaking and you being left with no warranty.
We must be very risk averse & prepared to pay the extra for that little peace of mind.
Im not sure how viable my idea is & I know a lot of research would need to be carried out, buut here goes..
How about they make all games & movies free, everyone would get them & like now only the good ones will really become popular. Pack the game/movie with adverts (acceptable level, anyway) & make money that way. The audience would increase by a factor of about 50 & piracy would be all but extinct. Obviously the current system doesn't work because as you say, games are easy to acquire on copy and films are all over the net, not to mention music.
its not a bad idea. eventualy they will have to find a new solution. theyr abuse on high prizes is causing this response by the people, im for legalizing pirate shit till these greedy assholes cut down prizes
there are a lot of publishers doing this already to help suppliment their development costs and such, tons of mmorpg's are free but have advertising models, lots and lots of more games are having advertisements in them like in driving games etc are putting ads onto billboards etc, the problem is that these ads aren't easy to quantify into revenue for the advertisers, much like with television, which is why you are seeing more and more tv commercials having web addresses that they specifically use to 'catch' their effectiveness of their tv ad campaigns, same with viral video commercials...
the best thing that i've heard so far, is to put a surcharge on internet connections then start a plan to monitor/pay developers based on their distributions etc, still very rough way of how it could be done, in canada we already pay extra surcharge on our blank media (cdr dvdr etc) for this exact reason. advertising is one possible way but advertising isn't completely the answer, with movies and tv it might be one way to help, especially tv episodes, lots of people would download tv shows if they put some advertisements in them just because of the ease of getting them, the cbc (i think cbc) in canada has started looking into this, releasing tv episodes for free online, even other networks are starting to offer some of their shows online, hell with the it crowd in the uk they had the entire NEXT weeks episode on their website you could watch if you wanted before it aired on tv ;)
the world is changing and developers and stuff have to go with the flow or else die...
my huge gripe at the moment with digital distribution is the fact that it costs the EXACT same as going to the store and buying it... to protect retail stores i guess.... but it makes no sense... no cost for printing a manual.. no cost in pressing cd/dvd no cost in shipping only a cost in bandwidth (and that is fucking cheap)
Our major networks (ABC, NBC, & CBS) offer tv shows online. You can't download them, but you can watch them through their site. Ads are sprinkled throughout. You can't fast forward, you just have to sit through the 10-30 seconds of ads to get back to the show. It helps keeps fans interested if you think about it, so they'll continue to watch the regular programming which brings in bigger revenue. Plus, it lets new people watch from the beginning of the season, and hopefully "hooks" them as well.
i'm not gonna read all of this.
yeah, all of them are pretty much going into the social networking "biz" as well... going to try to compete with youtube by the sounds of it.
Well I guess that I wasn't too far off of the mark with my idea then. The convenience of the internet is far too powerful of a force to compete against or try to police. Like anything else throughout history, organisations have to adapt to the external influences & piracy/copyright infringement over the web is unstoppable. As soon as they take down one site, another will pop back up in its place. As you have said that it is already happening now, I can only assume that in the near future this will roll out and become the norm. If the current producers/directors or whoever dont like it, tough shit. This is just how the world works now & they don't have monopoly over distribution any more. They either have to keep up with what is happening or they will be left behind, lose revenue & die, its inevitable.
This will mean Tom Cruise will not be paid 100mil for a movie any more. If they cut the actors salaries that would help production costs and then we wouldn't have assholes in hollywood with the money to spout off their "ideas" on how to make things better
Can you parachute and fly still?
I don't know just driving on the runway got some serious police action.
Ok, let me kow. Till then I'm COD4ing.
*know*
i've heard that flying is still an option, and i don't see why they would've taken the parachute out.
Am I the only one here that is not into gaming?
no, hank is also a huge noob.
he did beat me at backgammon though..
old skool
why the fuck didnt he kill the hooker?
xbox version? PS3 is better, screw MS!
Anyone play Mario Kart yet?
No, the rest of us here sre adults.
*are
Game of the Decade!
I still like SA a lot. I can spend all day riding up and down the Las Venturas strip on a bike mowing people down til the tanks show up and then try and get to the pay-n-spray before they blast me.
ahhhhh good times
It's harder this time because you can't let the cops see you enter the Pay and Spray. Which is hard with the helicoptors.
oh thats just fucking bollocks then.