Gordon Smiley at Indianapolis, 1982
What a race car and a wall does to flesh and bones at +320 kmh.
Gordon Smiley at Indianapolis, 1982
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Comments to Gordon Smiley at Indianapolis, 1982
Are we going too fast? Hell Naw! Where are my damn pod racers!
320kph=198mph. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he didn't feel the hit.
Meh the vid of the other racing death was better he did the helicopter
He won't be all "smiley" after that! Heyooooooooo!
It's 198.85 mph actually.
Sorry, just feel like being a smart ass tonight.
that guy talked too much... like, you don't have to rationalize why he died on impact, no one expected him to live
Jackie Stewart was cracking the shits because for years he was already saying that cars were becoming too dangerous because they were sacrificing far too much stability for speed and safety measures weren't even an afterthought.
That's the only reason I consider NASCAR to be a sport. They run the risk of dying every time they get out there. Now, if they'd only take out a few rednecks when it happens...
Yeah fuck safty netting we need more Le Mans 1955.
With magnesium bodywork.
Yes, we need to make these crashes just as bright as they can be!
Hmmmm... I'm no huge race fan, but I do recall when Dale Earnhardt died, he kinda "brushed" up against the wall and it pretty much fucked him up. So is it speed or the angle of impact?
James, the force of an impact is directly proportionate to the speed AND angle of the impact. The true question is "What was the rate of deceleration?"
Even the simplest of logic would dictate that a human cannot go from 200mph to 0mph in 0:00:02 seconds.
As far as Earnhardt (sp) I believe he would have lived had he been wearing his neck brace during the race.
It's called 'your time is up'. People die hitting post at 20 and walk away at 200.
You are a fucking moron!!!
NO ONE walks away form instant deceleration from 200mph to zero mph.
The hit sustained would be much greater than jumping out of a plane.
Go back to $10 tranny blow jobs on Santa Monica Blvd. you fucking dipshit.
Super, I challenge your logic. It is indeed possible for a human being to go from 200 to 0 in .02 seconds. Very possible.
Surviving 200 mph to 0 mph in .02 seconds... That's different. Incidentally, this guy hit over 1600 G's of acceleration.
Smerf, challenge accepted.
In the real world, such as racing and not a controlled environment, the result of such a jolt or "acceleration" as you said, would completely compromise the structural integrity of the human body. I don't know the formula you used to come up with 1600G's, but that sounds about right. I'm trying to imagine a circumstance , outside of water or space travel, in which the human body could achieve such a feat.
Remember, we are talking about instant deceleration, or instant acceleration as you put it.
Shit, smerf, I missed your stipulation of "surviving" the incident.
I checked with Spock and he is going to have to agree with Supernova on this one.
I think the angle of the dangle is relative to the heat of the meat.....
Supanova, what speed can a human go from to 0 in 2.0 seconds? I bet it ain't much, and bet it wouldn't exactly make for an exciting race. My whole real point was that to slow down cars to the point of being 'safe' would be pointless and make for one boring fucking sport.
If your concerned about dying, fuck off and take up snooker or something.
well, what about Richard Hammond? he crashed at 280 mph. Mind you he didn't crash into a concrete wall but apparently when he crashed his car dug into the ground at nearly 220 mph with a force of 6G which is defiantly enough to break bones and necks etc. and after that point he lost that 220 mph in about 5 seconds by digging into the ground. He did have a full roll cage and safety gear however, he was knocked unconscious and had some swelling on the brain after the accident but was completely fine about 2 months after the accident. Shows what kind of things the human body can survive with a little help
Here's the thing, it doesn't matter how fast you're going, it matters how fast you stop.
Listen Blah, I love racing. I like the danger involved as well.
What you wrote was "your time is up. People die hitting post at 20mph and walk away at 200mph." I needed to point out the obvious flaw in your (lack of) logic.
As for your Question, I would imagine a human could decelerate to 0mph/kph from a pretty substantial rate of speed in 2.0 sec. However, the rate of deceleration a human can withstand decreases rapidly in relation to the decrease in the time it takes to stop.
Smerf seems to have a formula to calculate Gforce, He could give you actual numbers.
....and just for the record 2.0 secs is 100x longer than .02secs.
Yeah, except I don't know the maximum number of G forces the human brain/neck can withstand.
And actually, I was wrong on my 1600 G's of acceleration. For some reason, I forgot to convert 320 kph to m/s. Still, 453.5 G's is more than enough to kill someone. I think lethal is around 100, but I'm not sure.
I don't think that this is purely a case of deceleration at work here. The car physically collapsed allowing him to hit the wall. Exreme deceleration is survivable in some sort of capsule, but the impact forces of hitting the wall will be fatal. It is the fact that concrete is harder than human tissue that decides the outcome.
MrFugs, a concrete wall will stop you instantly. Hence, instant deceleration. If the wall was made of flowers or fluffy kittens, you wouldn't stop instantly...
It's like smerf said, "it's not how fast you go, it's how fast you stop.".
Without getting into complex laws of physics, you can survive xG deceleration with zero or jsut soft tissue injury, but you can trip up and hit the floor at 1g and break bones. I saw some of the experiments with Chuck Yeager in the fifties & sixties where he slowed from silly speeds in less than a second, producing large amounts of g-force, but if you jumped off your roof you would hit the floor and probably die.QED.
OMG!!!
It turns out now you fucking bunch of primates know about math formulas, gravity, space travel and stuff??? big BS!! click back and go to the next video, you morons!
Ok shits his pants Krantz, Enlighten me. You damn ant in a stack.
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Right on there krantz, if us bunch of primates know about math 'formulas' or even formulae, and gravity etc.,where does that leave you? Calling people names just because you don't understand makes you the moron.
But seriously, Mr.fugs, 453.5G's. lets say his brain weight is 8lbs...
At the point his brain stopped moving it weighed 3,628lbs.
Can you say pudding?
And Krantz, add something or stfu.
Pudding! There did it! Thank you and goodnight. It's 2:45am here and I'm working at eight. Bye.
sure, how about common sense? no human body can withstand a 198mph to 0 mph deceleration in half a second, much less against a concrete wall - the rest is just a mind jerkoff to analyze the obvious.
No one else seemed to mind, jerkoff.
haha, see what I did there?^^
I think there's an element here at mucho that would REALLY like to believe that everyone posting here is as useless, ignorant, and stupid as they are.
I think the only adjective that fits as a unifier is "twisted."
I would agree Balls, there is every walk of life and intelligence here at MS......OOOOO look.....shiny shit!!
Fair enough, suppose I should think more about how I say stuff, and write stuff...because that was meant to be .02 (yes, I know I didn't get close.) lol
ok he didn't stop instantly, the car is designed to collapse up to his capsule to distribute the impact force, he also hit at an angle and was thus able to redirect his momentum rather than have it call come to a screeching halt, the g force calculation is just figuring out how fast you have to decelerate to go from 200 to zero in 2 seconds, then dividing by gravity... the greatest estimated g forces survived was 180G, the greatest g forces voluntarily experienced were a little shy of 50
Actually, The peak figures would be far higher than those in this thread because he hit the wall and was almost instantaneously accelerated away from it again. The fact that the car is designed to collapse progressively doesn't really figure in such a violent impact.
Where's the body in this one? I'm usually pretty good at finding them.
Only ashes left after that.
i think his head went thru his ash
i've seen some pretty fucked up crashes during races but DAMN!!! this is almost as bad as a bike crash i saw on here a few years ago. i pretty much watch all racing except NASCAR.
Hide behind the sofa then you wimp
fries, can you not read. let me rephrase it louder and in smaller words. I LIKE RACING, JUST NOT NASCAR!!!! now you should be able to make better sense of my first post.
dumbass
I don't think fries had issues with you liking racing. I think he had issues with this crash bothering you.
Yes , thank you smerf
You know what they say:" No pain, no gain"....
I'm a firm believer in "no pain, no pain"