What? Seriously, I hate reading comments on MuchoSucko. Half of them don't make any sense and the other half are completely ignorant posts about the government spying on us.
Oh, and secondly; what the fuck is wrong with you people? Where/how/why are you searching for videos like this? No one wants to see this crap (pardon the pun) so stop posting it!
well I agree with 20below. Mucho used to be 10% this shit and 90% relatively interesting posts. Now it's the other way around. More crashes, tits'n'arse and generally interesting stuff, less crapping on people and homosexual related posts. I think half of the people who post here use it as an excuse to pass of their poofter tendencies as humour. Posting photos and movies of guys dicks shows you are gay, not that you have a great sense of humour!
If people stop posting these I will quit coming...haha....20belowsummer, Go to youtube then and watch some of your emo friends blog about how their middle class life sucks.
People don't yet believe that the philosophy here is laissez faire, if it shouldn't be posted then it should be here. One main reason for this site's appeal.
So it's pretty obvious that 20below and Opinionator are newcomers. This is what mucho is all about. I agree that a long time ago, there wasn't as much shit and dick mutilation, but it certainly wasn't what people complained about. It's all about tastelessness and if you don't like it, then you know where the address bar is you pansies.
Also, go to your beloved Youtube and type in "King Kong" by Jibbs. You'll understand the reference and automatically realize how fucking stupid you are.
Oddly enough, when I first showed up on the site, there were a bunch of cock-mutilation videos. The only reason I stuck around was cause the other videos posted were funnier. But it really wouldn't be muchosucko without the sick stuff.
"This is what mucho is all about" JEEZUS KRIST, what a Fucking Idiot. It's pretty obvious you are an idiot (sorry, I mean moron), but, ya know, who the fuck are you to state what mucho fucko is, or isn't? I remember when things where more 'breaks and crashes' and less 'gay, tranny, shit porn'. Just state your opinion and shut up. Electrochlamydia
i think that smerf said it best, muchosucko wouldnt be muchosucko without this type of stuff.
every day i try to approve some things that will appeal to all the different types of mucho users we have, but since i'm still not at our apartment, i can't actively go searching and stuff quite yet...
The HankChinaskialwayswins-a-nator and 10-below are right. The rest of you are very sad.
Oh, and Electric sock did i mention that I thin you are complete garbage, the world would a better place if you just died, what can we do to speed that outcome along? Anything you need to kill yourself, just let me know.
you have the right to say whatever you want, notice how your comments weren't deleted, but i'm going to give less of a fuck to what you say over someone like wario or someone who has been here for some time. the people like you or 20below who think that mucho used to be 'something else' are the newbs that can't handle getting bashed and told to stfu by other people who have been around forever.
its pretty much that simple, and its always been that simple.
the truth be told, the only thing that i've noticed about a change in muchosucko is the amount of pussies who can't handle the shit that is posted.
remember the days when when a user would sign up and post a comment, and be jumped by like 40 of you regulars? maybe we need to get the user date and number back... :P
yak. I agree. We need more fresh meat. Playa4 was too easy he didn't fight back. I like the ones who kick and scream as they go down It's half the fun. the other half being fucked up videos. And mr fugsmucker that made me crack up...icing on the cake. <>< mantrain
1) After reading the comments i dont want to watch this video..but im still going to!
2)Hank, stop complaining for fuck sake because as ive said before "thats ALL you do"
3)Yak, get the date thingy up i really wanna know how long ive been slummin it on here with you lot...
I've looked at this sight long before I was a member and am always mystified by people that come on this sight and are shocked or angered or disagree with the posts. Take your head out of your ass and go to a sight that pleases you. What the fuck are you doing here, let alone being a member for. Did you miss something?
Oddly enough, Yak, I didn't get jumped on when I first signed up. I somehow feel like I've missed out on some right of passage, or something.
Having said that, if you don't like muchosucko, then get the fuck out. No ones forcing you to be here.
I haven't seen a post from Yak in a while, and then he poofs in and owns everyone. I fuckin love it! Although, the user dates wouldn't do me much good, since I only signed up at the start of the new layout. I've been coming to MS since like...very late 2003/early 2004, yet I never registered because the passwords were too randomized and waaayyy too hard for me to remember. At least the one I have now has real words in it : P
i am in the same boat electro... ive been coming here for years... just never signed in until a few months ago...password was too hard to remember. p.s. i dont think ms has changed that drastically except for the bombardment of porn on either side of the page :)
Smerf just shut the fuck up!!!
Only kidding, just thought I'd help your right of passage problem. (just ignore the fact I'm a newer member, but ya gotta start somewhere).
I agree with Oranjeboom, we need to get the dates up. And for all you panzies that can't take MS's material; why the fuck are you on this site anyway? It shpuldn't take that long to figure out what this site is all about. When I was new here, I made a comment about about being "disturbed" by a racist post...let's just say the "veterans" helped me get over it. It's all just part of the MS culture.
I never got the rite of passage either when I first signed up. Of course though when I brought up similar complaints as these the other day Yak ripped me a new one. I notice that he chose not to do that to others in this thread.
:(
But I would like to see the time stamp. That would be awesome.
lmao. I love how people say that I'm a "newb" to MuchoSucko. That's pretty hilarious, considering that I've checked every single update for the past three years. It's just recently that I started posting more often and pissing people off.
Seriously. Get the user join-up date back, yak. I didn't create this accont until about a year after I started visiting the site, but it should still show that this account is a couple years old. Some of these fucks think that they have seniority over me. HAH.
20below, if you weren't a newb to MS, you'd be used to people posting useless/nonsensical comments. But since you do nothing but bitch about it, I'm just going to believe you came to the site at about the same time Playa4.
lmao. How am I the newb to MS? I'm the one claiming how much it has changed. It wasn't until the past year or so that everyone started posting 90% fetish porns. Shit, I remember a time when it was actually pretty uncommon to find even a regular porn posted here.
You're a newb because you're claiming MS has changed completely when in fact it hasn't changed that much at all you fucking assclown. There have always been fetish porns (i.e. Shits n' Wiggles, electrocum) and there have always been regular porn videos too (i.e. oil wrestling, boob car wash). So stop saying it's changed, the only thing that's changed as much as you say it has is the layout and stupid faggotasses like you claiming this place isn't as awesome as it always has been.
"Some of these fucks think that they have seniority over me" ...take legaldick for example hes only been around MS for a few months I think but he still has seniority over you, the length of time you have been a member is obviously a major factor when it comes to seniority but there are other factors...I will not point out how many of these other criteria there are, no point since you dont meet any of them.
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mwahaha I got on the list cheers Daja. Pretty shocked it was start of 06, thought it was before that, must have been a lurker longer than i thought...ah well ive still managed to stamp my mark.
Would be easier if you were online, DejaVu. :) I have to hit the sack right now... K-Billy's girlfriend is waiting for me, and if I don't hurry, she'll go suck somebody else's cock.
And hey, I remember when Marlo got a new arsehole ripped out of him about his Toilet Paper crew. That was fucking hilarious. Honestly though, I didn't mean to whinge about the content here. I just find it weird that a majority of the stuff is now homosexual related somehow. I just want more crazy ass breaks'n crashes or whatever it was labelled. Yak, I do admire your dedication to this site, considering the amount of absolute CUNTS who post here...myself included. What a bunch of weirdos. I guess that takes it back to the whole "tasteless humour for the unemployed" thing.
Pft! you only think it's dumb cause yer a newb. but i'm sure a few of the older members would be happy to fasttrack your application. how's yer gag reflex?
Have you guys ever made a pudding pie? Its where you take the pudding mix and then a couple tubs of Cool Whip and you fold the damned whip into the pudding mix real gentle like and then pour it into a tasty graham cracker pie crust and put it in the fridge to 'setup'? You got to be fucking careful though, I used a hand-mixer the first couple of times and was really whipping that shit right and that fucker was buzzing brhhhhhhhhhhhghhh and i poured and put in the fridge and did the whole routine and when I pulled that shit out the next morning it was like some sort of rubbery foamy chocolate mess.
your supoosed to fold the cool whip gently into the pudding mix or vice versa, not use an electric mixer..The mixer uses to much mixing force causing the rubberiness..
hmm, I saw a bathtub in the corner of the tumbnail, figured she'd be sharting her panties. Oh well..well I do agree with Opinionator, shitting in pants isn't nearly as entertaining as watching a compilation of a family getting thrown into a wall from a car crash. ANYWAY..it's Muchosucko, everybody should know what to expect
i loled...and watched it again...that noise...so wrong! i would throw the rings and the panties away...but judging byt the look im sure she planned on just throwing them away. Why do people video tape this stuff?!
Did I say how much I love this clip? Looking at previous comments., How the hell can this be disgusting? Its beautiful in the most natural way.. From the comments Ive seen, most of you find it disturbing?? Watching people being shot, injured, mutilated, blow to pieces and being thrilled by it is perfectly fine of course.. No, people who enjoy watching that and then dare say a Beautiful girl shitting is disturbing are clearly quite sick themselves.
I like when she rubs it on herself. HAHAH, gross. The arguing over this video needs to be stopped and you newbs need to look up mucho on south park. just to show you how far reaching we've become. bam.
Comments to Lovely girl showing her ass off in the bath
You can hear her 'fo you see her, she got King Kong in the trunk.
What? Seriously, I hate reading comments on MuchoSucko. Half of them don't make any sense and the other half are completely ignorant posts about the government spying on us.
Oh, and secondly; what the fuck is wrong with you people? Where/how/why are you searching for videos like this? No one wants to see this crap (pardon the pun) so stop posting it!
...You do realize that the point of muchusucko is posting stuff like this?
well I agree with 20below. Mucho used to be 10% this shit and 90% relatively interesting posts. Now it's the other way around. More crashes, tits'n'arse and generally interesting stuff, less crapping on people and homosexual related posts. I think half of the people who post here use it as an excuse to pass of their poofter tendencies as humour. Posting photos and movies of guys dicks shows you are gay, not that you have a great sense of humour!
If people stop posting these I will quit coming...haha....20belowsummer, Go to youtube then and watch some of your emo friends blog about how their middle class life sucks.
Zing!
what a pair of pricks you are, (20below & Opinionator). if you can't take it don't watch it or read it. no-one is forcing you for fuck's sake
People don't yet believe that the philosophy here is laissez faire, if it shouldn't be posted then it should be here. One main reason for this site's appeal.
So it's pretty obvious that 20below and Opinionator are newcomers. This is what mucho is all about. I agree that a long time ago, there wasn't as much shit and dick mutilation, but it certainly wasn't what people complained about. It's all about tastelessness and if you don't like it, then you know where the address bar is you pansies.
Also, go to your beloved Youtube and type in "King Kong" by Jibbs. You'll understand the reference and automatically realize how fucking stupid you are.
where else to get my daily fix ?
Oddly enough, when I first showed up on the site, there were a bunch of cock-mutilation videos. The only reason I stuck around was cause the other videos posted were funnier. But it really wouldn't be muchosucko without the sick stuff.
"This is what mucho is all about" JEEZUS KRIST, what a Fucking Idiot. It's pretty obvious you are an idiot (sorry, I mean moron), but, ya know, who the fuck are you to state what mucho fucko is, or isn't? I remember when things where more 'breaks and crashes' and less 'gay, tranny, shit porn'. Just state your opinion and shut up. Electrochlamydia
electrogonnorrhea has been here a lot longer then you have hank... so yeah... he has more to say on the subject then you do :P
i think that smerf said it best, muchosucko wouldnt be muchosucko without this type of stuff.
every day i try to approve some things that will appeal to all the different types of mucho users we have, but since i'm still not at our apartment, i can't actively go searching and stuff quite yet...
The HankChinaskialwayswins-a-nator and 10-below are right. The rest of you are very sad.
Oh, and Electric sock did i mention that I thin you are complete garbage, the world would a better place if you just died, what can we do to speed that outcome along? Anything you need to kill yourself, just let me know.
Maybe I have more to say. Yak, you seem to be saying what he says has mor value. I thout this was the last bastion of democracies freedom of speech.
I don't care how long "Electric" guy has been here. What has that to do with anything? Are there senority points now?
you have the right to say whatever you want, notice how your comments weren't deleted, but i'm going to give less of a fuck to what you say over someone like wario or someone who has been here for some time. the people like you or 20below who think that mucho used to be 'something else' are the newbs that can't handle getting bashed and told to stfu by other people who have been around forever.
its pretty much that simple, and its always been that simple.
the truth be told, the only thing that i've noticed about a change in muchosucko is the amount of pussies who can't handle the shit that is posted.
remember the days when when a user would sign up and post a comment, and be jumped by like 40 of you regulars? maybe we need to get the user date and number back... :P
haha... gee yak... I didn't know how much you cared. *snif*
I know..You made me tear up too yakie..Or maybe that was some bud smoke that wafted into my eye..
i try...
Careful with what you're saying guys...The Government is watching,always.
yak. I agree. We need more fresh meat. Playa4 was too easy he didn't fight back. I like the ones who kick and scream as they go down It's half the fun. the other half being fucked up videos. And mr fugsmucker that made me crack up...icing on the cake. <>< mantrain
1) After reading the comments i dont want to watch this video..but im still going to!
2)Hank, stop complaining for fuck sake because as ive said before "thats ALL you do"
3)Yak, get the date thingy up i really wanna know how long ive been slummin it on here with you lot...
I've looked at this sight long before I was a member and am always mystified by people that come on this sight and are shocked or angered or disagree with the posts. Take your head out of your ass and go to a sight that pleases you. What the fuck are you doing here, let alone being a member for. Did you miss something?
Zing!
I'm missing something! I don't know what it is, but it's definitely not there. Maybe that's why I'm here.
Too true!
Oddly enough, Yak, I didn't get jumped on when I first signed up. I somehow feel like I've missed out on some right of passage, or something.
Having said that, if you don't like muchosucko, then get the fuck out. No ones forcing you to be here.
I haven't seen a post from Yak in a while, and then he poofs in and owns everyone. I fuckin love it! Although, the user dates wouldn't do me much good, since I only signed up at the start of the new layout. I've been coming to MS since like...very late 2003/early 2004, yet I never registered because the passwords were too randomized and waaayyy too hard for me to remember. At least the one I have now has real words in it : P
i am in the same boat electro... ive been coming here for years... just never signed in until a few months ago...password was too hard to remember. p.s. i dont think ms has changed that drastically except for the bombardment of porn on either side of the page :)
p.p.s. this vid made me laugh at the beginning... looked like she was growing a tail.
Smerf just shut the fuck up!!!
Only kidding, just thought I'd help your right of passage problem. (just ignore the fact I'm a newer member, but ya gotta start somewhere).
HankChinaski just needs some teething tablets,gripe water and a good burping...
I agree with Oranjeboom, we need to get the dates up. And for all you panzies that can't take MS's material; why the fuck are you on this site anyway? It shpuldn't take that long to figure out what this site is all about. When I was new here, I made a comment about about being "disturbed" by a racist post...let's just say the "veterans" helped me get over it. It's all just part of the MS culture.
I never got the rite of passage either when I first signed up. Of course though when I brought up similar complaints as these the other day Yak ripped me a new one. I notice that he chose not to do that to others in this thread.
:(
But I would like to see the time stamp. That would be awesome.
I cheated and made my first comments on the stuff that was about to be bumped off the front page.
Never thought I'd say this, but with the enormous influx of new guys, I actually miss people like TiredGuy.
i have a strange feeling that tiredguy is still with us....
yak u speak volumes. i joined up a couple of years after i've been just looking at the shit not commenting. fuck them like PETA. fuckers.
Tired Guy? I thought he's been hiding out in a hole with his buddy Osama all this time.
Zing!
lmao. I love how people say that I'm a "newb" to MuchoSucko. That's pretty hilarious, considering that I've checked every single update for the past three years. It's just recently that I started posting more often and pissing people off.
Seriously. Get the user join-up date back, yak. I didn't create this accont until about a year after I started visiting the site, but it should still show that this account is a couple years old. Some of these fucks think that they have seniority over me. HAH.
20below, if you weren't a newb to MS, you'd be used to people posting useless/nonsensical comments. But since you do nothing but bitch about it, I'm just going to believe you came to the site at about the same time Playa4.
lmao. How am I the newb to MS? I'm the one claiming how much it has changed. It wasn't until the past year or so that everyone started posting 90% fetish porns. Shit, I remember a time when it was actually pretty uncommon to find even a regular porn posted here.
You're a newb because you're claiming MS has changed completely when in fact it hasn't changed that much at all you fucking assclown. There have always been fetish porns (i.e. Shits n' Wiggles, electrocum) and there have always been regular porn videos too (i.e. oil wrestling, boob car wash). So stop saying it's changed, the only thing that's changed as much as you say it has is the layout and stupid faggotasses like you claiming this place isn't as awesome as it always has been.
"Some of these fucks think that they have seniority over me" ...take legaldick for example hes only been around MS for a few months I think but he still has seniority over you, the length of time you have been a member is obviously a major factor when it comes to seniority but there are other factors...I will not point out how many of these other criteria there are, no point since you dont meet any of them.
20below why is hurting you so much to be called a newb? everybody is new to the site at first, it's not like they're calling you a cunt. Cunt.
yak - Sat Nov 08 08:27:59 2003
DejaVu - Sat Nov 08 11:07:20 2003
20belowsummer - Fri Aug 06 06:56:02 2004
Oranjeboom - Tue Feb 14 11:23:06 2006
chairman_of_the_bored - Tue Sep 20 08:48:56 2005
Wario7793 - Tue Apr 19 15:43:31 2005
and funnily enough, out of that list of joined dates, the person i'd listen to the least is 20belowsummer :)
jreese - Thu Jun 02 10:51:17 2005
LAST LOGGED IN ON Thu Mar 08 20:58:36 2007
DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN
Yakie when did I make my account?
Or Deja-ie??
Thu Nov 23 01:42:43 2006
Yeah, I think my account was from this time last year, but I' been visiting for a while before that.
how about me yak? I think i have been on here a hell of a long time...
... of course I dont know... anyway, "dun dun dunn" indeed about jreese. I though he was gone forever!
aww... common yak! at least do this for me for one reason... My birthday is tomorrow! YAY! I turn 28!
Orangey, im here about 3yr or so i think, i was here longer before i was a member but i don't remember you less than a year or so.
I just sussed that, when did i become a member???
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tiredguy, haaaaa. I want to know when I signed up too.
ps 20belowsummer definitely has to go back to youtube.
mwahaha I got on the list cheers Daja. Pretty shocked it was start of 06, thought it was before that, must have been a lurker longer than i thought...ah well ive still managed to stamp my mark.
Cos u never shut up
Awwwww... It's SO cute that you're all still talking about me. Any of you fuckers get out of the house in the past seven months?
tiredguy! about time you showed up again :P somehow you're off my icq, so hit me up on aim
fuz - Tue May 17 03:50:52 2005
K-Billy - Thu Jul 22 21:35:51 2004
pleep - Tue May 03 22:03:56 2005
TiredGuy - Sat Apr 03 12:33:11 2004
seem to be an inordinate amount of signups between 10pm and 4 am. drunk fucks.
Would be easier if you were online, DejaVu. :) I have to hit the sack right now... K-Billy's girlfriend is waiting for me, and if I don't hurry, she'll go suck somebody else's cock.
i'll be back online soon as i get a computer (using my friend's computer atm) and moved into the new place (on thurs).
Hey Deja, just out of interest, when did I join? I know it was around the start of 2005. Thanks :)
And hey, I remember when Marlo got a new arsehole ripped out of him about his Toilet Paper crew. That was fucking hilarious. Honestly though, I didn't mean to whinge about the content here. I just find it weird that a majority of the stuff is now homosexual related somehow. I just want more crazy ass breaks'n crashes or whatever it was labelled. Yak, I do admire your dedication to this site, considering the amount of absolute CUNTS who post here...myself included. What a bunch of weirdos. I guess that takes it back to the whole "tasteless humour for the unemployed" thing.
last one i'm doing ever:
TheOpinionator - Wed May 25 21:05:14 2005
OOOHHH....me,me,me.....jk
just click your name and itll show in your little profile page when you signed up.. i got pat to do that last night
That's cool. And thanks, I really was just kiding. I thought this thing was dumb, thats why I stayed out...
Pft! you only think it's dumb cause yer a newb. but i'm sure a few of the older members would be happy to fasttrack your application. how's yer gag reflex?
Fuck you...where the hell have you been?
Oh great! Tired bi is back from his vacation with Osama! So TG, how is your old buddy doing anyhow?
First!!Niggazz..fresh chocalate pudding straight from the source..
idiot
Wow, MS is really fucking with my head. This video actually gave me a hardon...
Seek professional help
i was eating scramble eggs . . and the taste just got better . . . MS does some great things to you mentaly
i reckon! i started fucking my suitcase when i saw this shit!
i knew i was going to dry heave, but i watched it anyways
That sound made me jump.
LMFAO me too!
gawd damn granny panties...that dude needs some serious fashion guidance
I hope this won't break your fragile psyche, but that's a "she"
Supposedly. I personally trust nothing until I see whole body.
I second that ,smerf! MS is infamous for its "shapeshifters"
if i could combine two superheroes together... i would combine the juggernaut with the incredible hulk. that'd be crazy.
lawl
So, what happens if the Juggernaut runs into the Blob?
Why?
she had to go ?
Lame. Real shit eaters shit on the carpet and eat it up. Fuck all this bathtub clean yourself up when you're done.
Just ask BKY for more info on professional shit eating.
Did you know balls thrown from left outfield rarely make it to home plate without hitting the ground?
Wow im enlightned by both statements!
Have you guys ever made a pudding pie? Its where you take the pudding mix and then a couple tubs of Cool Whip and you fold the damned whip into the pudding mix real gentle like and then pour it into a tasty graham cracker pie crust and put it in the fridge to 'setup'? You got to be fucking careful though, I used a hand-mixer the first couple of times and was really whipping that shit right and that fucker was buzzing brhhhhhhhhhhhghhh and i poured and put in the fridge and did the whole routine and when I pulled that shit out the next morning it was like some sort of rubbery foamy chocolate mess.
No.
what did yo do wrong, exactly?
your supoosed to fold the cool whip gently into the pudding mix or vice versa, not use an electric mixer..The mixer uses to much mixing force causing the rubberiness..
Ah man I was fapping already so I thought I'd check out this vid too... Yeah....
I'll bet $10,000 that she is asian.
she's gonna have shit stuck in that ring for years.
Neat. I was eating a bean burrito while watching this. Literally.
jesus, this shit is sick. you know what I mean??? Really though. This sucks
Man... I need to remember to read comments on something like this before I watch it. That's fucking gross.
Well, you obviously haven't been here long. This is standard fare for muchosucko, and you'll learn to recognize it before you watch it.
don't they make diapers for this?
bI knew it was comming but I couldnt stop it
hmm, I saw a bathtub in the corner of the tumbnail, figured she'd be sharting her panties. Oh well..well I do agree with Opinionator, shitting in pants isn't nearly as entertaining as watching a compilation of a family getting thrown into a wall from a car crash. ANYWAY..it's Muchosucko, everybody should know what to expect
Do people actually get off watching this? It's pretty disgusting.
Wipe the jism off the monitor before asking that question and then tell your mom I'll see her again on the 14th...
Wow you're clever.
I LOVE THIS PLACE!!!
20below i fucking hate you
i was confused. my cock wanted to harden and sometimes my brain was disgusted. MS what have you done to me?!?!?
If only she was shiting on a young asian girl
That video is an analogy of my life. You get lured in with the promise of T&A and just wind up getting shit on
Hire her out to the Japs then, you'll make a fortune!
rageoflucifer can kiss my muthafucking ass..:-* ( * )
Even I know about the reply button
that is fucking vile!!
I loved it! :D
where can you see more of these?????
i loled...and watched it again...that noise...so wrong! i would throw the rings and the panties away...but judging byt the look im sure she planned on just throwing them away. Why do people video tape this stuff?!
shit... what did she eat to create that... mexican maybe?..
ONE GIRL ONE TUB!!!!!!
I love that vid.. Hot, extreme and a real turn-on.. Just what I was after
Did I say how much I love this clip? Looking at previous comments., How the hell can this be disgusting? Its beautiful in the most natural way.. From the comments Ive seen, most of you find it disturbing?? Watching people being shot, injured, mutilated, blow to pieces and being thrilled by it is perfectly fine of course.. No, people who enjoy watching that and then dare say a Beautiful girl shitting is disturbing are clearly quite sick themselves.
I like when she rubs it on herself. HAHAH, gross. The arguing over this video needs to be stopped and you newbs need to look up mucho on south park. just to show you how far reaching we've become. bam.