Power of prayer
Luckily for me, I fall in the first column.
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Comments to Power of prayer
i dream of a world where people who believe in and pray to an imaginary being are locked in padded rooms for their own safety
and everyone worships the flying spaghetti monster like they should
Ironic, I'm actually eating spaghetti right now.
It is a sign - you have been touched by his noodley appendage!
Ramen.
Barilla, actually.
That's not ironic, that's merely coincidental. Fuck you and allanis morisette
Allanis Morrisette would never fuck your fat ass.
i used to work in a barilla factory.... trust me.... you never want to eat barilla noodles
man...gorillas aren't made in factories
I think he said vanilla, not gorilla.
Chinchilla?
Sasparilla villa.
Magilla Gorilla?...Patrick Ewing?
I like Turtles!
They are delicious!
Rocky-Tommy, oh the memories, u r a fuken tool man for reminding me <cries>
^incoherent finn :/
Is there any other kind?
i buried him alive hahaha
I prayed once that I would get a gf :(
you got me
skulk and drumrave sittin in a tree...
my dream come true *_*
.. f-i-s-t-i-n-g..
haha
Just loose that excess 150lb and you're set, drum.
I suppose he better "hit the gym", eh, Arnold Swarthynigger?
that would make drumrave.... 110lbs?
You really shouldn't weigh 110lb after losing 150lbs.
"Arnold Swarthynigger" - If I was black, that would be clever. However...
drumrave said he was 260... so... that would most likely (if your math and my math are the same) 110... no?
He probably means he will gains weight in muscle and manliness maybe.
I would hit the gym if it weren't for all the people who make the 'resolutions' I'm going to start going in about a month
No, I meant that noone some be big enough to lose so much weight & still weight 110lb.
*should
A'men
Strange thing is, whomever made this chart seems to be ignorant to the purpose of prayer, which isn't typically a selfish act. It's either giving thanks or wishing well upon another person. The guy who made this chart seems to think it's about asking God for a winning lottery number or something. If you do that, then you're not praying in the way that any religion I've ever heard of encourages.
i think you are missing the fact that it doesn't actually do anything at all.
LO-fucking-L
Not quite right there, Yak. Placebos do have some effect.
Hank, if you had just joined today & said that, I would have had to reply vigorously in CAPS!
Luckily, you haven't & therefore I know what you're saying.
???
I don't get it either.
The only effect that placebos have is psychological, just like religion.
If Hank was new, I could have assumed that he believed placebos actually had a physical effect. Opposed to mocking the placebo effect of religion.
Comprende?
What if the said placebo was used to cure a patience pain? There's where it gets sticky. I guess in this case, pain is a psychological-only thing?
How would a canopy cure anything?
Belief and willpower can have an effect on otherwise random outcomes.
That being said, people who pray probably don't believe it's gonna work, they're not going to pray about something small enough to effect, and by praying they're abandoning their own willpower and asking some eye-in-the-sky to do something.
Yes, placebos do work somethines. That just goes to show easy it is to believe something that is absolute bullshit & doesn't (really) do anything when you have 'faith'.
Another jab at religion there.
There's some evidence that prayer, while having no effect on people in hospital if you don't tell them about it, makes people WORSE if you do tell them you pray for them.
Supposedly you put them under stress.
And yeah, praying for world happiness does fuck all if you're still an asshole.
Placebos do have a physical effect due to the mental effect they produce. Common knowledge.
i'm glad i come here ... i learn so much
I doubt it.
So, my professors praying before tests is a bad thing? Damn!
I guess I'll have to pray that their prayers are undone.
Placebos are stupid & only effect the feeble minded. I see why Hank would have faith in them.
I don't see something as working, until it fucking works. I don't just assume something is because I expect it to. THAT would be the pinnacle of ignorance.
C'mon, man, try to think a little clearer. It's not me having faith in them. I don't take placebos so my faith or lack thereof is irrelevant. Some people believe in them. Placebos have a psychological effect on those people. Because of that belief there is a physical effect. There is usually, I think, a more positive result as compared to groups given nothing in control groups of experiments testing new medicines.
I was pretty sure that was common knowledge.
I was too.
The only reason those tests bring positive results is because of the idiots cognitive bias. They expect it to be working so when asked, 'are you feeling better', the will respond with 'errrr...yeah'.
Hank, there is NEVER any physical effect, whatsoever. Any effect that the placebos have will be psychological. That is exactly why they only work at all in certain circumstances. The won't increase the healing rate of an infection or anything like that. They may improve someone's mood but that is obviously the psychological effect. Again. nothing physical.
Nope.
Yes.
Like I said before, placebos are stupid & only effect the feeble minded.
Why don't you try reading about them on wiki. Then you can come back with your tail between you legs to confess you ignorance.
"Placebos are stupid."
That statment is stupid. Placebos are neither stupid nor smart and they affect more than the feeble minded.
(They probably affect those that didn't go to the gym enough, right? You know, the people that are getting weak genes.)
You're diverting from your course, Hank. You were saying that placebos have a physical effect.
Are you admitting defeat? Or are you clutching at straws?
P.S. placebos are stupid.
& FYI, I'm going to the gym in about an hour. I'll be doing shoulders & triceps. Maybe a little stomach, all depending on how long it takes & how I feel.
You misspelled "a couple of guys in the locker room".
^ buddies up in the shower 'to save water' lol
Yawn. Checked Wiki. You are still wrong.
It said three or four times, "psychological effect triggering a physical effect" or "physiobiological effect." It also said "effective at relieving pain". Are you going to say now, 'pain is purely mental and isn't physical at all?'
Placebos do produce physical effects due to people believing in them. It doesn't matter if those people and the placebos are big stupid heads.
Thank God for Wiki
Jesus cured people too . fact
Pain is psychological. The point of a placebo being nothing other than a FAKE medicine proves that pain is psychological.
Oranje just agree with Hanky for fucks sake
Why do you keep whining about how it's FAKE and the people who feel affects are FEEBLE minded? Jesus, what a fucking child. It is what it is, a sugar pill, or whatever. So what? You've got some kinda beef with placebos, it seems. Whatever. I couldn't fucking care less. All I've been saying is they have a physical effect due to the psychological effect.
Why don't you go check Wiki so you can see you are wrong and shut the fuck up?
Your just helping him build his comment count
As for pain:
People can be conditioned to expect analgesia(also known as a painkiller) in certain situations. When those conditions are provided to the patient, the brain responds by generating a pattern of neural activity that produces objectively quantifiable analgesia.
So as I said before, the only reason those tests bring positive results is because of cognitive bias. It is all in the mind.
You're wrong.
Its kind of like a "faith healer" and they have been proven effective time and time again.
Oranje, you are such a fucking tool sometimes.
hello ... is anybody listening to me ...
Also, since people usually are not told when they recieve a placebo, how does an effect make them FEEBLE minded? Seems to me, it's the POWER of their minds that is causing the physical effect.
You seem to think a placebo is like believing in faith healing or something. It's not, people know placebos aren't medicine. It's just they think they are taking real medicine. They expect their health to improve and in many cases it does. Even if only temporary, they are phyical effects. You are wrong. Sorry. Sucks to be you.
23,585.
Faith healing is an effective form of treatment when all else has failed medically.
What a fucking retard. You said check Wiki. I checked it.
IT SAID YOU ARE WRONG.
IT SAID THERE ARE PHSYICAL EFFECTS.
What can't you grasp about that? It doesn't matter if the causes of the physical effects are psychological.
THERE ARE PHYSICAL EFFECTS, YOU FUCKING MORON!
If everything else has failed, you're not likely to have much faith left.
And if you're not religious at all, faith healing can't work.
How can there be cognitive bias when the people don't know they are taking placebos? There can't be, yet there are still physical effects.
Suck it you tool.
God loves you whether you believe in Him or not, Fugs.
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God even loves homo's like 1rish1
I don't think I'm too comfortable with being loved by a him...
it's not natural.
I thought god hated gays
Scoff if you will. It makes no difference in the amount of love he has for you.
thats just that insane Westboro bunch
Bless you Hank, you have the memory of a fish.
I don't give a flying fuck about placebos. If you think back Hank, I've done this same thing before on the same fucking subject.
You were being a dick with me before on other threads so I thought Id wind you up.
I played you like a fiddle.
The funny thing is, in 6 months from now I'll deny the effectiveness of placebos & you'll go on on one again.
+1 Team Oranje
P.S. I just got a personal best of 60kg on the shoulder press, how cool am I....Hank?
Bullshit. I think you are trying to cover your ass. Even if we did have this discussion before, so what? I could have been drunk.
You think I'm supposed to remember every single debate I've had on here? I've got 23,589 comments.
Anyways, I was right and if you want to pull some BS out of your ass, provide the LINK or stfu.
What's a shoulder press?
I'm not familiar with gym terms (lazy).
It's like a trouser press but for your shoulders
Hank, it was many moons ago. I remembered though. Probably because I'm smarter than you are...& I just played you like a fiddle, haha!
Fugs, it is when you get a barbell (that's the long one), start at your shoulders then push it up over your head until your arms are fully extended & locked out. Then rinse & repeat.*
*Well, that is what I call a shoulder press anyway, in case some noob comes along being all technical.
*bookmarks page so I can show Hank how easy it is to wind him up in the future, when we do the placebo debate for a 3rd time*
Link or you are gay. Fact.
Also, only queers say "I played you like a fiddle."
Actually, Orangs favorite instrument is the skin flute. Gay, but true.
He is a skin flute maestro.
fugs you noob ..a shoulder press is when you have to lean over on one shoulder to get the remote
I'm suprised dik just doesn't keep the remote velcroed to his pants or something.
Oh, yeah, dik never wears pants.
It velcroes to his hairy legs
i do wear pants...just not right now
Orangs second favorite instrument is the hardmanica. It's like a harmonica only it doesn't play music. It's just a dick in his mouth.
Hank, placebos don't really work, ya know.
lol
think ive stumbled upon a gay convention here
^Undoes his zip
if theres any 'shower-buddying' tonite there im up for that
I think I need to dig the weights out again and try some of this exercise nonsense.
Orang, your jokes don't work either.
Lawlz.....,Fag.
I was watching something yesterday about mediums & some of the really cool tricks they did. It went on to say how people believed in what the mediums said & even went to the extent of the mediums words becoming a self fulfilling prophecy. It basically came down to humans naturally wanting an easy answer to what we didn't know. In steps religion.
I wonder just how much protection money the top 3 religions have accumulated.
I would like to start a religion. All that is required of the mucho crowd is a small $10 monthly subscription fee in my Paypal account and you too will be blessed by my divinity. I shall look over you, my children.
Paypal is for fags.
This must be for Black people. -Get em in now, folks. You get 5-10 for that in 6 days.
sweet chart.
I need to show this to my ex, she uses prayer as an excuse for everything. Everything happens for a reason...bull motherfucking shit
i'm convinced. i'm gonna start praying. the pros outweigh the cons.